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New Aliens from Summer OR

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Chad F · · Costa Mesa, CA · Joined Jul 2009 · Points: 75

I just stumbled upon a blog from Summer OR, new aliens? sweet!

new alien

Here is the blog I found it at...
blog link

runout · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 30

Cool link. Thanks for sharing.

Is the bottom picture of the Alien Evolution? (Evo Aliens? Lol.) Anyway, that doesn't look like it has a lot of metal on the lobes. I actually think the X4s look bomber in comparison and would rather buy one of those than an Alien, new or old.

MP · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 2

dear god, what have they done to the aliens? It looks like the love child of a mastercam, alien and WC cam...

The only positive thing is that they appear to have switched how the cam-lobes are attached to the axle-- looks like they moved away from the press-fit to a different method.

Maybe they realized how much better the Totem basics were, and are trying to differentiate themselves?

Dr. Long Arm · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 15

Stronger, narrower, and lighter - sounds good to me!

mattm · · TX · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 1,885

Most excited about the upcoming WC Superlight OFFSET Rocks - Never been able to get 100% behind the DMM/HB offsets - Yes, I get they're amazing in pin scars but I just never found them as versatile in anything BUT pin scars. This was always due to the straight taper of ALL 4 sides. I found that setup somewhat limiting and still prefer WC Rocks as set one, DMM Walnuts as set two for "normal size" nuts (4-8/9ish)

The new WC Superlight Offsets look to solve my biggest issue

http://youtu.be/CE-i0RSqEXo WC SL Offsets

bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065

Its significantly lighter

Fixe alien vs x4

;)

runout · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 30
reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
bearbreeder wrote:Its significantly lighter ;)
The Totem basic green is 61g, w/ aluminum trigger bar, FWIW. I bet Fixe was getting hammered & finally decided to compete. They still don't have an internal spring blue though...
Josh Allred · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 161

When are they set to release?

coldatom · · Cambridge, MA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 70
bearbreeder wrote:Its significantly lighter ;)
Thank God.
I have always found that the weight of my Aliens hold me back.

+1 number grade for me!
bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065
coldatom wrote: Thank God. I have always found that the weight of my Aliens hold me back. +1 number grade for me!
Its significantly lighter than the x4 equivalant

Especially as they are planning a version with an extendible sling

Which saves 50-80g right off the bat

;)
Jim Clarke · · Summit Park, UT · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 1,656

Love the Totem Basics, absolutely best small cam I've ever owned. More refined and engineering than the Fixe's. But what the hell has happened to the them and the company? Website hasn't worked in almost two years…can't find them anywhere...

Charlie S · · NV · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 2,391
Josh Allred wrote:When are they set to release?
If I'm remembering my conversation with the rep correctly, he said it'd be on the Fixe Hardware website in 4 weeks. Or maybe it was 4 months...but I'm pretty sure I recall weeks. Don't quote me on that.
John Butler · · Tonopah, NV · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 115

They said price would be $2 less at OR, and would be available through select dealers as early as September. On the FIXE website sometime after that.

Dave Alie · · Golden, CO · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 75
reboot wrote: I bet Fixe was getting hammered & finally decided to compete. They still don't have an internal spring blue though...
Can't comment on the internal spring blue alien, but I spoke with Kevin about the new aliens at OR and he explained that Fixe retained the original design in order to honor Dave's request that the CCH design be kept for a certain period of time. That time period has now elapsed and the new aliens have a small handful of tweaks that collectively put the cam on a diet. Can confirm: they are super light. Having not used them, I obviously can't say anything more about how the new generation climbs, though after playing with them briefly there doesn't seem to be anything that represents an alarming departure from the traditional aliens. Will report back once I get a chance to climb on them.

From what I recall, he said the first batch would be on it's way over from Spain sometime in the early fall, though not sure if that was sample/pre-order stuff or if that's when production models hit the shelves.
Salamanizer Ski · · Off the Grid… · Joined Sep 2005 · Points: 18,929

The new Aliens look good. An update into the 21st century and only a decade too late;)

As for that Eldrid Jul 2 thing in the video link. I can tell you one thing they won't mention about it in the video. "There is no better way to constantly and consistantly short rope your partners, than with the Jul 2".

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180

Hopefully the ends won't break off.

cms829 · · NJ · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 90

Am I the only one who is questioning their choice of material on the piece which the wires are housed? I would guess that the trigger is plastic, and if so it looks like the wire "bar" is plastic as well. If this is the case- no way they will hold up over years of trad climbing IMO. That area of the cam can take a heck of a beating. Specifically in shallow horizontals.

Does anyone know if that is painted or anodized aluminum? Or is it plastic?

Looks like a master cam with alien lobes.

James Dean Anderson · · Longmont, CO · Joined May 2013 · Points: 146

Looks like the new aliens in both varieties (standard sling and double sling) are available:

backcountrygear.com/active-…

Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180
James Dean Anderson wrote:Looks like the new aliens in both varieties (standard sling and double sling) are available: backcountrygear.com/active-…
Site says backordered.
NC Rock Climber · · The Oven, AKA Phoenix · Joined Dec 2009 · Points: 60

meh.

The Totem Basic (their version of the alien) is the best small cam out there right now.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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