Mountain Project Logo

Beal Joker 9.1 after 10 trips to the crag

Original Post
Leify Guy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 367
after taking a couple small soft falls on the same spot, the beal joker did this after only 10 trips to the crag...

Not very impressed by the durability of my beal joker so far, I know it's not meant to be a work horse, and that's not what I use it for, I primarily have tried to use it for send attempts only, but I obviously haven't sent on every red point attempt
knowbuddy Buddy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 225

Mine lasted at least two years. It outlasted four of my partners Nano's. I couldn't have been happier with it.

Luke Bertelsen · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Feb 2005 · Points: 4,867

I have a 9.1mm Mammut that I love. I have been amazed with the durability.

Sean Brokaw · · Boulder, CO · Joined Dec 2012 · Points: 5

I climbed with a guy who had a similar experience with the Joker. I love my mammut infinity 9.5. I found it to be super durable and it handles really well. I'm fairly big (170lbs) for a sport climber and have fallen on it a lot. Sucks about your rope though, those things aren't cheap!

Jon Zucco · · Denver, CO · Joined Aug 2008 · Points: 245

Were you taking falls in a way that placed the rope over a rough edge or something? The sheath shouldn't be damaged like that from biners and/or belay devices after just a couple "soft" falls. And are you sure you only used it 10 times? That "undamaged" portion of the sheath looks pretty haggard to me, but I've only climbed on a Joker once before, so am not too familiar with how they wear..

I'd try and swap it out for a new one from the vendor or manufacturer. That's a pretty shitty deal.

mountainhick · · Black Hawk, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 120

How careful are you with your rope side carabiners? Could happen easily if the biner was worn from being on the bolt side of a draw.

Derek Jf · · Northeast · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 335

Do you know if the rope was contacting the cliff as you fell? Or do you believe this is just from carabiner friction?
That wear pattern looks like coarse rock-contact abrasion... I don't know what climb you were on but seems more plausible it was the way your gear was placed/sling length that drew the rope against the cliff as you fell inducing this sort of abrasion pattern..

Alan Doak · · boulder, co · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 120

I'm curious, were you falling on fixed draws with worn caribiners? In a couple of cases, people have gotten the chop. I could imagine it putting a lot of wear on a rope in less extreme cases.

blackdiamondequipment.com/o…

Superclimber · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 1,310

My Joker has over a year of use with no significant wear and tear.

Alexander Blum · · Livermore, CA · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 143

That is not a photgraph of a lightly used rope. The falls may have been soft, but some other external variable (not the quality of the rope) was a significant factor in those core shots. Rough edges, rope drag, rough carabiner . . . something.

bearbreeder · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 3,065

Use a thicker rope

If you are fuzzying up the sheath like that ultra skinny ropes arent for you

Get a 9.5mm+

Are you lowering down and pulling the rope after every fall? Or are you boinking up and retrying the moves?

These skinny ropes are marketing genius to sell $$$$$ ropes more frequently to folks who dont really need em

;)

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665

I had a fairly poor impression of the sheath durability of the joker I used. It went fuzzy/soft quickly with no lead falls. But it was nothing like shown here...
This looks like a rope that was pinched against something while being under tension.

Leify Guy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 367

the sheath initially got a little frayed from my buddy taking on this section of rope several times (hang dogging), however the day that this happened was on a consistently overhung route on my own gear, I'm super OCD about my draws so if someone places one of my draws upside down (rope side in the bolt) I switch out the biner (which gets expensive haha)... long story short I took three falls on the same part on a virtually brand new draw with no rope drag on a rope that legitimately looks brand new throughout the middle and other end of the rope and ended up with a blown out sheath...

Leify Guy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 367

also all my draws that were on the route were 17mm or 21mm, so when I would fall the rope wasn't anywhere near the rock

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Climbing Gear Discussion
Post a Reply to "Beal Joker 9.1 after 10 trips to the crag"

Log In to Reply
Welcome

Join the Community

Create your FREE account today!
Already have an account? Login to close this notice.

Get Started