I am serious about ice diving. I think with our skills we can do it. Whites look kinda flimsy on the outside layer for barnicles. I am pretty rough on my gear especially in channels and surrounded by urchins. I heard good things about them though. We are also getting our advanced diver certs. Believe it or not we only have our open water PADI. It's all been experience for the past 2 years. Can't justify all the money you have to pay for it. Back to the subject: all long trad slings get a locker or at least 2 non locking biners of your choice back to back on rope side. Nuf said.
i re-connected with another climber from a few years ago ...
recently he took a fall where the rope on the last piece unclipped from the cam ...
as it was a diagonal traverse he fell down then swung to the side ... he ended up flipping upside down scrapping his head and tweaking his ankle on a 40 foot whipper on moderate ground
hes luckly to walk away
he said its the first time its ever happened to him in decades of climbing
i personally feel that the rope/sling coming out of the biner, while uncommon, is not unknown ... with lower angle cracks where the biner can get fixed inside or bump against the sides, i suspect that it happens more than most folks here think
ill see if i can take a few pics the next few days of possible scenarios
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