BD HoodWire Carabiner size?
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Does anyone know if the BD HoodWire carabiners are the size of the Neutrino or are the size of the HotWire? In other words, are they full size or smaller? Also your opinion of them? |
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Full size. |
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Full size. I have about 60 of them and love em. They are kinda of big now, but when they came out they were cutting edge. I'm slowly switching to the WC Helium. |
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Ryan N wrote:Full size. I have about 60 of them and love em. They are kinda of big now, but when they came out they were cutting edge. I'm slowly switching to the WC Helium.You realize that the Helium cam out almost a decade before the hoodwires, right? |
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shoo wrote: You realize that the Helium cam out almost a decade before the hoodwires, right?And the Helium is still better. The hoodwire sucks. |
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Hoodwires are very similar size to the hotwires. I also prefer the oz hoodwires as they are smaller and lighter but not so small they are hard to use. Also the hoodwires are not a good choice for quickdraws with certain dogbones, especially the petzl spirit dogbones. The caribiner is too wide at the bottom and does not rotate freely within the dogbone. The oz does not have this issue. |
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shoo wrote: You realize that the Helium cam out almost a decade before the hoodwires, right?I wasn't saying one was newer than the other, just switching. |
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Thanks for all the input. I'm in the process of building a rack after a 30 year hiatus from climbing. Carrying a rack full of cams and carabiners with wire gates is kind of foreign to me. With that, Im looking for something that is close to what Im used to and some of the new small carabiners just didnt fell right to me. I think Ill pick up a few of the hoodwires and see how they fell. |
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Hoodwires I would say are "almost" full size. They are certainly smaller than the new and old hotwires. If you like full size biners, which a lot of folks do, check out Wild Country Helium or Nitro biners (the Astro is their smaller cousin) which are excellent. DMM also has some great full size biners, i.e. the Thor. Great for use with gloves, although nowadays I'm so used to small biners I don't mind anything Oz size or larger. Metolius FS Mini is still too small. |
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For racking biners I've found myself in love with the DMM Alpha Light. They're what I'd call 3/4 size biners (bigger than Neutrino, smaller than Positron). |
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The difference in size among all three isn't huge. |
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Love love them them on my draws. Super solid and stand up to a beating. |
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My whole rack is on hoodwires, and it starts to take up quite a bit of space on my gear loops, the nose is a little to wide. Slowly want to switch to dmm alpha trads( dopest biner ever) but it's expensive. Worth the quality and support of one of the few remaining companies of that in house production quality and heritage. Starting to come around to keylocks too |
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Reese, re: DMM Alpha trads, I think these are actually made by Wild Country not DMM, so they aren't truly "in house" production. Wild Country of course has had the Helium clean wire nose for a while now, which is essentially the nose of the alpha trad. Both DMM and Wild Country make excellent climbing hardware. Too bad WC don't make a smaller Helium the size of the WC Astro biner. |
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Linnaeus wrote:Reese, re: DMM Alpha trads, I think these are actually made by Wild Country not DMM, so they aren't truly "in house" production. Wild Country of course has had the Helium clean wire nose for a while now, which is essentially the nose of the alpha trad. Both DMM and Wild Country make excellent climbing hardware. Too bad WC don't make a smaller Helium the size of the WC Astro biner.I think you have that backwards. DMM has been manufacturing many, if not most, of the complex shaped hot-forged carabiners for Wild Country and other brands for years, including the WC helium. DMM is almost certainly manufacturing all of its carabiners in house. |
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It looks like teece303 answered the OPs question best with a photo showing comparison. |
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Big Feet, you actually have that backwards... DMM produces the WC Helium, the Hot forged lobes for the Helium friends, and a few other odds and ends for Wild country. most of Wild country's hard goods is now manufactured in Asia (nirto astro biners ect). whatever is not is made by DMM. Wild country still does most of their soft goods, Sling runners the like in the UK. DMM even prdouces goods in the UK for Petzl Mammut and other brands using DMM's Hot forging process and dies. |
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Rob Warden, Space Lizard, |
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See DMM is the dopest |
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I think I'm seeing that the DMM Alpha Trad biners are full size. Is that correct? |
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Mark Thesing wrote:I think I'm seeing that the DMM Alpha Trad biners are full size. Is that correct?Yep, Alpha Trad are full size, Alpha Light are 3/4 size. |