Would you say something?

Did you say something?

There is... a lot to say!

I think it's all been said now.

What is there to say?

I've said it time and time again.

BTW
Did she sign a photographer's release for you to publish her likeness on the internet?

Uh-oh! Better not say anything now.

Looks like the typical bomber no hands grigri belay, xtra safe.

Tab Yaj wrote:

Hell yeah I'd say something. Hanging on a 10a! Climber should get a steady stream of insults from all present.

I'd say "Own that ponytail! Work that updo! ... Can I have your number? Can I have it?" I also wouldn't let her belay me like that.

I dont always post creepy photos of chicks 'belaying', but when i do, i use MP

Whenever you see something like this you should always say something. I would yell to the climber "Yer Gonna Die!" That would relieve me of all further responsibility...

You do NOT need a photographer's model release: the poster is not making money off this photo. Common mistake.

You can do anything you want with personal photos, no matter who's in them, so long as there was no reasonable expectation of privacy of the subject (there wasn't), and you're not using the image for commercial purposes. News and editorial content is what this posting is considered. It's how paparazzi photos can be published

Now the ethics of posting it...

Look! It's a girl!

What do we do?!?!? We're climbers!!11!!11!

How would your answer to the above question change if the belayer (still using a grigri, still hands-off) was a guide belaying a client? (Asking because I saw this recently.)

If I thought there was immediate danger, I'd do something right then, but if she was at least 1/2 way attentive and seemed to know how the device worked, then I'd wait.
When the climber got down, I'd discretely mention the belay and let them handle it. If they also did not understand, then I'd try to explain to both.

FWIW, I've only been dropped to the ground while being belayed once... Luckily, in a padded gym; it was on a gri-gri.

David Sahalie wrote:I dont always post creepy photos of chicks 'belaying', but when i do, i use MP

FWIW TonyB is right on with this one

I recently had this conversation when reviewing how to use a Gri-Gri:

Other person: "If the climber falls while you're paying out slack, take your hands totally off and it will lock up."

Me: "I'm not comfortable with that. I'll use my ATC."

Shit. Compared to the stuff I see in France all the time, - cigarette in one hand, Camera taking the selfie in the other, while the climber is leading at their limit - this is pretty tame.

From a pedantic point of view, given that the climber is hanging, which implies that the gri-gri is locked, aside from the lack of a backup knot for a worst case scenario, this situation is actually quite safe. Seeing as we don't know whether or not her hands are on the device while the climber was actually climbing, it's impossible to know whether the climber was actually in danger of the device not catching a fall. It's possible that she let go only once the climber was hanging from the gri-gri.

If on the other hand, while the climber was leading, she didn't have her hand on the rope, I still would almost certainly not say anything. There are certain situations which I will speak up (very dangerous anchor, no hands on the brake line while using an atc, etc) and certain situations where I won't (poor gri-gri technique, distracted belayer, etc). It's a tough call, and would depend a lot on what I was doing, how risky the situation was, whether or not I thought there was somebody's life in immediate danger. I am not a guide, I am not a parent.

I have had mixed reactions from people when I have informed them of extra risky behaviour. Some were very thankful, others were very belligerent.