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John Tex
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Jul 11, 2014
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Estes
· Joined Mar 2013
· Points: 0
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Ryan Nevius
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Jul 11, 2014
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Perchtoldsdorf, AT
· Joined Dec 2010
· Points: 1,837
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angus Morrison
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Jul 11, 2014
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carbondale, colorado
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 25
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Jacob Smith
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Jul 11, 2014
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Seattle, WA
· Joined Aug 2013
· Points: 230
In my understanding the term "pinkpoint" applies only to trad climbs and it means the gear is already in place, whether bolts have draws on them is not something I think anyone cares about. I also don't think it's correct to say that a pinkpoint is not a send. it's not a redpoint, but send is a very ambiguous term.
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Bapgar 1
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Jul 12, 2014
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Out of the Loop
· Joined Oct 2007
· Points: 90
Jake Jones wrote:Huey Lewis and the News just keep cranking out the hits man. Have you guys seen this "MTV" thing? It's pretty awesome. It's music, but with videos too. I'm saving up for a car phone too. I'll give you 5/10 for the sarcastic nonsequitur.
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chuffnugget
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Jul 12, 2014
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Bolder, CO
· Joined Sep 2011
· Points: 0
I pinkpointed a girl once at summer camp
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rging
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Jul 14, 2014
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Salt Lake City, Ut
· Joined Jul 2011
· Points: 210
If any of you ever hear that term come out of my mouth from a climbing standpoint, please punch me in the face.
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Colin Brochard
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Jul 17, 2015
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San Diego, CA
· Joined Apr 2008
· Points: 176
I think the 'pink point' designation for sport climbing is stupid. You don't get extra credit for placing your own draws on bolts that were already there. Especially if you are projecting a route. How stupid would it be to clean your draws off a sport climb in between each redpoint burn? (really fuckin stupid) Maaaaaaybe, you get some extra credit for hanging the draws on your onsight go, but only b/c everybody knows that's a pain in the ass. And you are doing all your buddies on the ground a big favor. I think the realm where the term is useful is cragging with traditional protection. At Arapiles, OZ and some other trad cragging venues with easy top access, it's common to put in gear on rappel and basically sport climb on your gear (I think it's an excellent practice; crag isn't littered with thousands of ugly superflous bolts; climbers can go get good and pumped without getting scared unless they want to). Obviously you don't get a full tick if you didn't put your gear in from the ground up.
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Darren S
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Jul 17, 2015
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Minneapolis, MN
· Joined Feb 2006
· Points: 3,388
Jake Jones wrote:Huey Lewis and the News just keep cranking out the hits man. Have you guys seen this "MTV" thing? It's pretty awesome. It's music, but with videos too. I'm saving up for a car phone too. Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.
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EeT
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Jul 17, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jan 2015
· Points: 0
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Ryan Palo
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Jul 17, 2015
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Bend, oregon
· Joined Aug 2006
· Points: 605
Darren in Vegas wrote: Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself. http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/sick-reference.gif
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Dan Austin
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Jul 17, 2015
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San Francisco, CA
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 0
pretty sexist term when u think about it imo
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taipan jam
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Jul 18, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2015
· Points: 30
Darren in Vegas wrote: Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself. Awesome post Darren That's the Power of Love
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Glenn Schuler
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Jul 18, 2015
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Monument, Co.
· Joined Jun 2006
· Points: 1,330
Darren in Vegas wrote: Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this, Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself. Red Rocks, mid 80's..... were you there too? Mind>>>>>>>> Blown! If only I could of afforded the $250 Huey Lewis jean jackets they were selling, I would have been so cool.
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Darren S
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Jul 18, 2015
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Minneapolis, MN
· Joined Feb 2006
· Points: 3,388
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Anonymous
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Jul 18, 2015
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined unknown
· Points: 0
It does make a different on a climb, I know routes I cannot send unless the draws are pre-hung because without them pre-hung I can't reach the bolt with the draw.... so it does make a huge difference. Do people really care? Most probably don't. What it comes down to is the fact that unless someone else is around that can lead it I can't setup the route, however We can rip the rope down once they are all hung and I can run up it.
Which than comes down to this point... which is more impressive being able to set a route from the ground up with taking break at every bolt OR being able to only cleanly climb it with pre-hung draws. Yes I could free solo it without the draws but even with a 95% success route I will not risk climbing it and skipping the bolt I can't hang due to location of the bolt and not being able to reach it from any clipping stance.
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