Is MP the worst thing that has ever happened to climbing?

MJMobes wrote: whoever the jerk was that told everyone in CO that the good climbing is in Utah should be shot like a rabid possum. boulder, squamish etc etc

My old roomate who has lived on the front range his whole life (let it burn) told me about how way back in the day him and his buddies opened up a climbing magazine and there it was... super crack. Apparently they all got in a car and drove strait to the creek... soooo I guess what I'm saying is. Maybe that is the worst thing that has ever happened to climbing?

Colorado's favorite crag.

Eldo Love wrote: If you want to wiggle off the couch and go crush in a pristine area your an idiot

Please use "you are" or "you're" in the future when you type the phrase "you're an idiot."

Eldo Love wrote: This could go on and on. The stone masters must be screaming in their graves...

Oddly enough I was talking to one of the Stonemasters yesterday. Well, not actually, more of a Sheepherder, but he climbed with those guys and what have you. A lot of what you're saying is good. I too now like a little mystery on so-called local crags, but like to use word of mouth to share the wealth so to speak. This idea that you have to hoard your local climbing areas is a little selfish I think, especially if you have climbed there for a decade or more.

No, the main thing my friend and I discussed was that there really is no "brotherhood of the rope" going on and that climbers tolerate each other for the sake of the activity. Once you get injured and are unable to climb, or lose your ability to in some other way, you'll see your climbing partners disappear. Not my friend and I, mind you. We have a friendship outside of the climbing. He no longer can climb you see.

So really, all of what you are talking about is just kinda bullshit that doesn't matter. Get beyond that and all will become clear to you.

Hoarding in Colorado??? The land of plenty? unheard of!

Let's go a few steps further than MP like the internet, or maybe people gathering in large populations like cities. Heck, maybe all the way back to the origins of man. I'm pretty sure dinosaurs didn't have the same problems we are currently experiencing.

Manners are non existent, there is no respect for the older members, oh yes and I'm a old cry baby.

It's a forum dude. A place where people can pretty much say what they want. Don't like it, then start a new forum for sensitive climbers or deal with it.

I think in "giving advice" forums MP should be more like Scuba Board. A legit certified by AMGA guide submit their cert # and then given a title, such as "certified guide". So people don't take seriously all the bs and shit talk that goes on here. Mods should act more professional on here too. As for keeping crags secret, I ask you Why? The more people climb at the crag the more the rock cleans up. I think popularity of a crag deters vandalism too.

Only one thing to say to people who live on the internet, talk s**t, put everyone else down, make ridiculous uninformed comments and all the other weird stuff that people do while sitting in front of a screen......................GET A LIFE! Oh, the irony.

Joan Lee wrote:I think in "giving advice" forums MP should be more like Scuba Board. A legit certified by AMGA guide submit their cert # and then given a title, such as "certified guide". So people don't take seriously all the bs and shit talk that goes on here. Mods should act more professional on here too. As for keeping crags secret, I ask you Why? The more people climb at the crag the more the rock cleans up. I think popularity of a crag deters vandalism too.

Haha.. I knew I've spoken to you before.. I never got an answer before the Mods took down that thread couple weeks ago. Still diving?

Scooby forums? I gotta see what that's like. The only people more impressed with themselves than climbers are divers.

Bill Kirby wrote: The only people more impressed with themselves than climbers are divers.

Or Hellenor

This site is super tame. Mostly, the barbless hooks cast here don't even rise to the level of troll, or even interesting. But that's cool, I come for the photo and beta stoke, not intro level wanking.

Don't take it seriously, the shadowy, doo doo flinging figures cast by poor writing skills are usually just an overemphasized detail in otherwise decent personalities. Go to the crag. Climb. Be happy.

No, climbing gyms and Meetup.com style group siege crag wankers taking up every bolted 5.7 in an area is the worst.......

do you know how many times I've run into people telling me they want to climb, and that they climb 5.11+ in the gym and then when i get em out and they shaky leg their way up 5.8?

Rodney P wrote: Or Hellenor

It's possible I guess she's a diver and a climber.

What's wrong with "FA-Unknown"???

It's true that the forums can get a bit hostile...welcome to the internet!

As a guidebook, I think this site is very useful (especially the mobile app). When I encounter a climb that's not on here, I will sometimes snap a photo and post a basic description for the benefit of others on this site. Most of these have been one- or two-star easy single-pitch climbs that somebody probably climbed 30 years ago. Do you really expect me to start interviewing Ft. Collins locals from the 1980's to see who first climbed a 30 foot route at Horsetooth?

Baumer wrote:Do you really expect me to start interviewing Ft. Collins locals from the 1980's to see who first climbed a 30 foot route at Horsetooth?

My thoughts exactly.

mikewang.org/dongchim.htm

Classic and Horrible at the same time!

Hey Eldo. Here. Here's an apostrophe for you, " '."

Get it.
Know it.
Live it.

While we're at it, it's "you're." Contraction. Not "your," indicator of possession.

Try some grammar, dude, if you're gonna piss and whine and moan about nothing. Otherwise most discerning folks are likely to take you as a spewey, dumbshit asshole who can't be bothered to write well enough to be taken seriously.

Luck with that.

Chris treggE wrote:Mp is great, just stay out of the forums! Oh, wait...

+2

Great resource for routes. In many cases better than the guidebook.

Rules I'd like to see observed (fat chance):

Don't post a route unless you've actually climbed it.
Don't comment on gear unless you have actually used it.
Don't Monday morning quarterback a climbing accident unless you witnessed it.
Don't add irrelevant comments to a route like "it is a cool route, I loved it."