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Is MP the worst thing that has ever happened to climbing?

Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480

Eldo, I feel what you're saying but take it easy. It's just words..

My favorite is people saying new gear that just came out is junk when they've never used that piece.

therockbiter · · San Jose · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 145

I find this site a good way to keep track of my routes and fifnd info on things i dont know eg: self rescue. Some have ego's to fill and others have info to find. As we go through life we swim the seas of stupidty trying to navigate through them in order to find the bays and harbors that yield the most information we are in search of. BE WATER. :)

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145

When are they going to put a Starbucks on the Bastille?

therockbiter · · San Jose · Joined Jun 2014 · Points: 145
Monty wrote: This game ought to cheer you up
I usually have to pay for this kinda action. :)
The Blueprint Part Dank · · FEMA Region VIII · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 460
Chad Wagner wrote:+1 for the irony. Still ironic seeing Peyton in orange, Blueprint! More irony please!
Checking the Proj.

I gotta keep up with the forums
Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Optimistic wrote:It's funny: over the past few months I'd actually been thinking that I ought to put up a "Thank You" post about how much nicer and more respectful people have become on this site over the past year or so, and how much more constructive the majority of the posts have been. Seriously, I think people have really cleaned up their act, with certain...ahem...noteworthy exceptions. Or maybe I just have Stockholm Syndrome?
You're right...it is better. For a while there was a posse of some real aholes that were running amok on MP. Guess they moved onto other places.
BigFeet · · Texas · Joined May 2014 · Points: 385

I would say this site is a great resource as long as you can sift through to get at the juicy stuff.

I'm brand new to this rock climbing thing. I have never climbed rock under any type of protection, and before a few months ago didn't even know what the Hell some of the gear climbers use is called.

That being said, my base of knowledge came only from books solicited here on this site - Freedom of the Hills and Climbing Anchors by: John Long. Thanks bearbreeder!

Coming here to read through the arguments, look at the diagrams, and test the application (in the garage while wife makes fun of me) of what has been posted on this site has very much so helped me build on my knowledge.

Books can help with the basics, but I believe you guys delve into more than a book can cover which makes a big difference in seeing different ways to get things done. I read stuff... go home and put it to practice... observe the pros and cons.

In the end (Actually this weekend at Enchanted Rock / Trip report to come) when I do go for my first ever climb on rock, under protection, with an AMGA guide I will feel much more confident in my abilities to see and avoid dangerous situations, implement proper gear usage, etc.

You guys have been an important part of my learning, so don't short yourselves. Granted there are the goofballs, assholes, and whoever but you get that in all walks of life. Makes things interesting at least. :)

You may find a lot of what is posted here as trivial, useless, or whatnot - maybe because you have been there and done that. Be aware, there are those of us who have not and really do want to learn this stuff.

I do appreciate the input most of you guys give, so keep it up!

Fat Dad · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 60
snowhazed wrote:most of the stone masters are still alive....
And still climb harder (and spray less) than most on this site.

BTW, climbing hasn't changed since MP. That is far too self aggrandizing a view. Climbing had already changed (in some ways better, in some ways worse) way before the advent of sites like this. MP is like anything else on the internet. If you don't like it, don't read it. Problem solved.
The Blueprint Part Dank · · FEMA Region VIII · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 460
BigFeet wrote:I would say this site is a great resource as long as you can sift through to get at the juicy stuff. I'm brand new to this rock climbing thing. I have never climbed rock under any type of protection, and before a few months ago didn't even know what the Hell some of the gear climbers use is called. That being said, my base of knowledge came only from books solicited here on this site - Freedom of the Hills and Climbing Anchors by: John Long. Thanks bearbreeder! Coming here to read through the arguments, look at the diagrams, and test the application (in the garage while wife makes fun of me) of what has been posted on this site has very much so helped me build on my knowledge. Books can help with the basics, but I believe you guys delve into more than a book can cover which makes a big difference in seeing different ways to get things done. I read stuff... go home and put it to practice... observe the pros and cons. In the end (Actually this weekend at Enchanted Rock / Trip report to come) when I do go for my first ever climb on rock, under protection, with an AMGA guide I will feel much more confident in my abilities to see and avoid dangerous situations, implement proper gear usage, etc. You guys have been an important part of my learning, so don't short yourselves. Granted there are the goofballs, assholes, and whoever but you get that in all walks of life. Makes things interesting at least. :) You may find a lot of what is posted here as trivial, useless, or whatnot - maybe because you have been there and done that. Be aware, there are those of us who have not and really do want to learn this stuff. I do appreciate the input most of you guys give, so keep it up!
Boom! And there you go. Excellent point there Mr. Feet.
Aleks Zebastian · · Boulder, CO · Joined Jul 2014 · Points: 175

It is the worrrrrrst because of peopple like ME with nothing better to do with their time, brah!

The Blueprint Part Dank · · FEMA Region VIII · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 460
Scott McMahon wrote: You're right...it is better. For a while there was a posse of some real aholes that were running amok on MP. Guess they moved onto other places.
It was mostly tiny Wes Welker. I told him to cut that shit out or else I'd let Eric Decker screw his wife.
Bill Kirby · · Keene New York · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 480
obvious troll wrote: brah!
Anyone seen the new Honda Fit commercial? Does it go off road brah? Yea brah? Haha.. I love it!

I hate when people hijack threads too! Stop getting off topic people.
ChefMattThaner · · Lakewood, co · Joined May 2013 · Points: 246

+1 to BigFeet, I think there is some seriously great wisdom(gasp!) to be found amongst all the chaos that is MP. I have never been more lost in my life than some of the times spent following terrible directions to remote crags presented to me on MP. But at the same time, I would have never thought to look in some of the places that have contained some of my favorite climbs ever.

No matter what the result, Mountain project has gotten me off my ass and hiking through the mountains looking for rocks to climb and spend a few hours doing what we all love to do so much.

chuffnugget · · Bolder, CO · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 0

So the 'stonemasters are turning in their graves' because passing time at work BS each other on this forum. Oh right, must be ok with Sir Eldo if it is stonedmasters on Supertopo talking about their hip replacement ?! Or too many boltz these days? Or libtards?

No one is making you read the general section, just memorize the stickies in beginners and trad area broski.

Tombo · · Boulder · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 410

In answer to the original question I'd say climbing gyms.

Eldo Love · · Mancos,CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 125
David Sahalie wrote:So the 'stonemasters are turning in their graves' because passing time at work BS each other on this forum. Oh right, must be ok with Sir Eldo if it is stonedmasters on Supertopo talking about their hip replacement ?! Or too many boltz these days? Or libtards? No one is making you read the general section, just memorize the stickies in beginners and trad area broski.
Yes!!! Thank you!! I honestly cant believe it took so long... Sir David. No one is making you read the general section? Yet here we are. I really should have known mentioning the stonemasters would hit home. Im gonna go crush on some gnarly TR's now bra! Thanks again.

On the other hand everyone elses conversation went so very well... I may have diverged from the REAL rule #1, Have Fun! what an amazing adventure... feed the rat! you know what to do! Yeah!
The Blueprint Part Dank · · FEMA Region VIII · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 460
Eldo Love wrote: Yes!!! Thank you!! I honestly cant believe it took so long... Sir David. No one is making you read the general section? Yet here we are. I really should have known mentioning the stonemasters would hit home. Im gonna go crush on some gnarly TR's now bra! Thanks again. On the other hand everyone elses conversation went so very well... I may have diverged from the REAL rule #1, Have Fun! what an amazing adventure... feed the rat! you know what to do! Yeah!
Eldo Love

It's just so hard. Because my insecure troll disguised as elitist posturing didn't make everybody see how cool and AWESOME I am.
SavageMarmot · · Nederland, CO · Joined Jul 2012 · Points: 190

"Is MP the worst thing that has ever happened to climbing?"

Nope. Great resource and outlet.

Eldo Love · · Mancos,CO · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 125
The Blueprint Part Dank wrote: It's just so hard. Because my insecure troll disguised as elitist posturing didn't make everybody see how cool and AWESOME I am.
If for some reason I knew a really shitty highschool football players name I could compare myself to him. Unfortunately I have to live through my own accomplishments. 5.10's expert right? Its very unfortunate that I am not smart enough to come up with a better rebuddle... shit.. strong work amigo
... notice all the cams??? I just hauled those up for extra weight.

Love,

Timmy
M Mobley · · Bar Harbor, ME · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 911
David Sahalie wrote:So the 'stonemasters are turning in their graves' because passing time at work BS each other on this forum. Oh right, must be ok with Sir Eldo if it is stonedmasters on Supertopo talking about their hip replacement ?! Or too many boltz these days? Or libtards? No one is making you read the general section, just memorize the stickies in beginners and trad area broski.
whoever the jerk was that told everyone in CO that the good climbing is in Utah should be shot like a rabid possum. boulder, squamish etc etc
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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