Is MP the worst thing that has ever happened to climbing?
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Mkay...rule #1... here we go |
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LOL! I am pretty sure that you are blind to the irony of your post. Carry on. |
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the amount of butthurt climbers continues to grow |
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Yes, ironically, this is a very opinionated post. I understand where you are coming from though, but MP is much like Wikipedia in that it provides a free space to share information, good and bad. My thoughts are that MP is great for sharing beta, but you do not have to agree with the beta or even give it the time of day. I, personally, would never rely exclusively on MP, but a local guidebook plus a little extra beta from MP is great for route finding. As for FA's, MP, IMO, has no credibility in this department, guidebooks on the other hand do have some authority because "the local bad ass that spent the last 20 years" was consulted before publishing, or the local bad ass published it him/herself. "Local crags should be kept secret and local" - if all local crags were kept secret, then no guidebooks would have ever been written, because all "local" crags were once secret and known only by the locals, but then word got out and they became "destination" climbing areas. |
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It's funny: over the past few months I'd actually been thinking that I ought to put up a "Thank You" post about how much nicer and more respectful people have become on this site over the past year or so, and how much more constructive the majority of the posts have been. Seriously, I think people have really cleaned up their act, with certain...ahem...noteworthy exceptions. |
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There will always be those who dislike what you or others may have to say. When posting you need to take the good with the bad, or just keep clear of the forum, and acquire information from other sources. If someone makes an ignorant post about an area, and I know that it is BS, then I'll call someone out for that. If someone seems to have a genuine interest in an area, then sooner or later a person will surface with info that may be of use..None of this however should be allowed to affect your passion or interest in climbing rocks..Kinda like life in general.. |
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NC Rock Climber wrote:LOL! I am pretty sure that you are blind to the irony of your post. Carry on.Haha! shit |
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most of the stone masters are still alive.... |
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snowhazed wrote:most of the stone masters are still alive....and have taken up fly fishing. |
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I would rather have route information without the FA if the person adding the route doesn't have the info, in general, the first couple of comments on a route will bring clarification as to who had the FA, who had the FFA if applicable, etc. |
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+1 for the irony. Still ironic seeing Peyton in orange, Blueprint! More irony please! |
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ELDO.... what is your point? |
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Eldo Love wrote:So why is it than when some newb asks a honest, simple question, that so many people feel the need to violate rule #1?This should answer your question. |
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Id say it's more of a symptom of the need to brag/share every aspect of your life. I remember seeing secret/afterwork crags on rc.com and they were never overrun. Then came the cambrian explosion of social media and now you cant post a silhouette of a crag without someone tracking it down via google earth. |
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ELDO, do you need a hug? |
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Mountain project is full of douche bags but I think the people I'd call douchey and you would are almost opposite. |
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MP should be like Survivor. We can vote people off based on popularity. Be a douch bag, and your off the island. |
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Compared to rockclimbing.com, this site is pretty tame as far as rudeness goes. |
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snowhazed wrote:most of the stone masters are still alive......and spend their days at the old climbers retirement home poking each other with sharp sticks and mumbling at each other on the ST forum. |
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Monty wrote: This game ought to cheer you upthat is the best thing that has happened to MP |