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Kai Larson
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Mar 31, 2013
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Sandy, UT
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 436
Just came back from a Sierra ski traverse. Slept 4 nights on the snow with a NeoAir XTherm. Have to make sure your snow bed is reasonably level, otherwise you slide around a lot. Otherwise, no issues at all.
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Nick Votto
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Mar 31, 2013
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CO, CT, IT
· Joined Jul 2008
· Points: 320
I use a Z Rest with a Thermarest Prolite 3 (short) on top....works perfect and its super light.
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Febs
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Jun 18, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 5
Guys... sorry to resume this thread but when you - or most of you - talk about sleeping on the snow is the usage of a tent assumed or not? I am asking because I am just packing to sleep on the snow (on a glacier) and I have a z-lite. I also have an inflatable pad which I could carry, but I am really trying to be as lightweight as possible. I am also carrying a tent. So, the OP that felt cold using the z-lite on the snow... did you use it on the very snow itself (and so perhaps I can be fine with only the z-lite in the tent) or that was in a tent and you still was cold? Many thanks!
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jmeizis
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Jun 18, 2014
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Colorado Springs, CO
· Joined Jul 2008
· Points: 230
Essentially I think yes, depending on what the inflatable pad is I might just take that, which is usually what I do. I have friends who are fine with the z-lites but I like a little more comfort and warmth.
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Max Forbes
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Jun 19, 2014
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Colorado
· Joined Jan 2014
· Points: 108
Big agnes Q-qore, 5.1 R value. You really need a pad with an R value of above 4 in the winter to be reasonably insulated in your sleeping bag.
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Febs
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Jun 19, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 5
I guess I can put my empty backpack on the bottom and adding the rope if necessary? That should provide extra insulation without carrying any more load. I should definitely invest in a warmer pad for the next trip, though.
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JacksonLandFill Wood
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Jun 19, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2013
· Points: 40
Febs wrote:I guess I can put my empty backpack on the bottom and adding the rope if necessary? That should provide extra insulation without carrying any more load. I should definitely invest in a warmer pad for the next trip, though. What about 2 z-lites? Thats two layers of R 2.6, and still a little cheaper than an inflatable pad. Although the space it takes would be ridiculous. I've heard of people adding fleece liners to their bags. I've added two plus one z-lite and been warm in 0 degrees F on snow/ice/rock.
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Andrew Mayer
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Jun 19, 2014
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Driggs, ID
· Joined Nov 2010
· Points: 131
Febs wrote: So, the OP that felt cold using the z-lite on the snow... did you use it on the very snow itself (and so perhaps I can be fine with only the z-lite in the tent) or that was in a tent and you still was cold? Many thanks! I have used my Z-lite in both a tent and a bivy sack so in both instances there is a very thin layer of nylon material between the snow and sleeping pad. Insignificantly thin though in terms of helping insulate you from the snow.
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Febs
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Jun 23, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 5
Andrew Mayer wrote: I have used my Z-lite in both a tent and a bivy sack so in both instances there is a very thin layer of nylon material between the snow and sleeping pad. Insignificantly thin though in terms of helping insulate you from the snow. Thanks mate, I'll get a new mattress. For the trip I just had I carried two pads, the z-lite and another self-inflatable thin mattress, what a pain in the bum. I had the biggest pack I ever loaded in my life. :)
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