To the crew that pulled their rope down on me at Draper Red Rock today:

Bad form, yo.

I was on Bloody Impaction, you guys were TRing Face Plant. I was climbing, minding my own business, when I heard someone yell, "Rope!" and then less than a second later, I was hit by said rope.

There was no harm done, it didn't hurt, and I didn't fall, but it did startle me a bit.

Climbing etiquette and common decency indicate that if there is a person potentially in the way of your rope when you want to pull, you (a) wait until they are clear of the rope's fall zone, or (b) communicate with the climber and ask if it's okay for you to pull the rope.

Do better in the future, yeah?

I had a rope pulled down on me twice at that place last weekend. Once the yahoo didn't even yell rope. Seems to be par for the course at that place. But I guess that should be expected when climbing at an outdoor climbing gym. That place is fun to climb at but is the epitome of poor etiquette.

Bonneville wrote: ...I guess that should be expected when climbing at an outdoor climbing gym. That place is fun to climb at but is the epitome of poor etiquette.

Yeah, on one hand it's a great place for beginners, but on the other hand, it's a great place for beginners.

Agreed. That's my go to place anytime I take people new to climbing. However, I love the first section of the route Gingervitis with the little cave section and Cuspidator with the cool flake section with the crack on the left. Kinda rad to get some hand/foot jamming on a sport route! =)

Draper Red Rocks is one of the sickest crags in the Wasatch. With grid-bolted classics like those chossy 5.6s and that one move wonder 10a, it's surely not to be missed. If you like it there, I highly recommend checking out Mt Van Cott. It's in the database here. Sweet new bolts and hardly any traffic since it's kind of a secret. I'm just giving you shit but c'mon man, what did you expect there?

Finn the Human wrote:Climbing etiquette and common decency indicate that if there is a person potentially in the way of your rope when you want to pull, you (a) wait until they are clear of the rope's fall zone, or (b) communicate with the climber and ask if it's okay for you to pull the rope.

Why didn't you say this while you were there?
Because you have no balls?
So you remained, stewing in their presence, then came home and started an internet thread?

You showed them!

user id wrote: Why didn't you say this while you were there? Because you have no balls?

Wow, hi there Mr. Grumpy Pants.

As I said in my original post, it wasn't a huge deal, and by the time I cleaned the route and came down, I wasn't even thinking about it anymore. It wasn't 'til I got home that I thought about it again, and decided I'd leave a post here on the off chance that they'd see it, and hopefully not hit anybody else with their ropes.

I'm not trying to "show" anyone.

Daniel Winder wrote:Draper Red Rocks is one of the sickest crags in the Wasatch. With grid-bolted classics like those chossy 5.6s and that one move wonder 10a, it's surely not to be missed. If you like it there, I highly recommend checking out Mt Van Cott. It's in the database here. Sweet new bolts and hardly any traffic since it's kind of a secret. I'm just giving you shit but c'mon man, what did you expect there?

Dan, my other go to spots are Dogwood and The Slips. You've probably never heard of them, but there's some seriously epic climbing to be had. PM me, and I'll send you the directions to get there.

maybe they got bored waiting for you to take your sweet ass time.

As long as we got a gripe thread going I'm going to chime in. One sunny afternoon I was climbing in Ferguson Canyon, this couple walks by with their unrestrained mutt and it walks all over my shit with its muddy paws, I was so pissed. They didn't even apologize or nothing just walked on by avoiding eye contact. I thought about saying something but ya know its a family area. Another time I was climbing stiffler's mom and this group ahead was kicking down some rocks, not big, smaller than golf balls and they didn't yell rock! It turns out it was a couple friends of mine so I did end up saying something and they laughed at me. ARRRGG! And then some years ago I spied some butthole stealing the pins from the schoolroom roof, this jerk was waving a bull whip of all things while he was doing it. I did have the muster to get in this butthole's face but I didn't need to because everyone else did. Then there is all the teenage imps that spray paint everything, and the crooks that break windows to steal shit like coffee mugs, y'all know who you are and can burn in hell. There is also a few people I could name off but I'm not going to, you know who you are too and can kiss my ass!
I shouldn't have sat down to type this out cause I'm super pissed right now!

This should explain things.
mountainproject.com/v/climb…

5.samadhi wrote:maybe they got bored waiting for you to take your sweet ass time.

Ass time is my favorite kind of time. Sweet, sweet, ass time.

Hum, I notice you didn't comment where you were in relation to your last bolt while leading the climb. Had you just clipped a bolt leading? If you were right at a bolt or top roping then there is no foul.

Ken H wrote:Hum, I notice you didn't comment where you were in relation to your last bolt while leading the climb. Had you just clipped a bolt leading? If you were right at a bolt or top roping then there is no foul.

That's bullshit. It is still on the person pulling the rope to communicate with the climber. I've been in this situation plenty of times. I wait until the leader reaches a bolt or a stance that looks safe and ask if he's comfortable with me pulling a rope down. The answer is often "Yes." But simply yelling a generic "rope" as the slack falls down is a NOOB mistake.

If I had been the climber in this case, I would have gone over to them in a friendly way and said, "Next time would you please communicate better with the person climbing?" I'm sure they would be more aware in the future.

I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but I find these passive aggressive "To the guy that did blah blah blah last Sunday" posts really frustrating. The people that did it were perhaps ignorant or not paying attention, but if you brought it up with them POLITELY then they would probably have been receptive, or at least more aware. As it is, this helps no one.

If you didn't think it was worth bringing up then, then it's not worth it now. I'll make an exception for those "To the guy that tried to wing me with a rifle when I stumbled on his meth lab looking for a place to pee" posts that we see occasionally. In that case, rant away.

Finn the Human wrote: Ass time is my favorite kind of time. Sweet, sweet, ass time.

Said like a true adventure time fan. *dies laughing*