Wooden platform bolted to prune face crag below Gate Buttress
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Shaft wrote:James, this is what I did with my life last night...Who is the MAN? youtube.com/watch?v=nFvRvSx… Shaft. Can you dig it? |
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You can thank the tireless JK for the graffiti removal plan, I was just along as a helper, with boissal and a neighbor kid too. |
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poor guy, when I point out how pointless you are it's not funny. But you can't find irony in that can you? |
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James Piotrowski wrote:I'm going back to my life now, it includes spraying, spraying again, spraying more, spraying even more, and not shutting the fuck up when I have nothing left to say . Your mileage may vary but certainly exceeds mine.Fixed it for ya. |
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Greg G wrote:soooooo has this structure been removed yet? I've got a framing hammer ready to demo some shit!It's gone. It may be back soon, keep the hammer handy. |
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Boissal wrote: Fixed it for ya.Where's the "like" button? |
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This thread is gold, and I, for one, have gleaned much value from the "your mp moment of zen..." thread during days spent cuffed to my chair making ends meet. It's usually not personal and really only critical of the mob mentality that has descended upon this once-upon-a-time, fringe activity. Sorry to see a fellow Idahoan caught up in the Wasatch spin cycle. James, I hope you can value the relative sanity up there! |
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jonathan knight wrote:This thread is gold, and I, for one, have gleaned much value from the "your mp moment of zen..." thread during days spent cuffed to my chair making ends meet. It's usually not personal and really only critical of the mob mentality that has descended upon this once-upon-a-time, fringe activity. Sorry to see a fellow Idahoan caught up in the Wasatch spin cycle. James, I hope you can value the relative sanity up there!Make no mistake, I was merely grabbing some entertainment value in this thread, on a day when I don't have a lot to do, but still need to be in the office. And yeah, the "mob mentality" is reaching every corner these days. It's a function of population growth. More climbers = more assholes who climb, same as every other sport. Fortunately, Idaho outdoorsmen tend to have a relatively low asshole ratio, and I can report that I've had very few bad interactions on streams or rivers, and none at crags here at home; compared to many, many positive interactions at both places. But there is a special kind of self-righteous, self-important, undeserved arrogance among Wasatch Front outdoorsmen, at least on the internet. Normally, I just let it go, since the upshot of it is that they have to live in Utah. |
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The SLCA was made aware of these structures on Wednesday 5/21 by a local climber. While we were investigating if their construction was sanctioned by the owners of the property (The LDS Church), the structures were removed without input from or the support of the SLCA board or executive director. |
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Any pictures of the finished platform? The start looks good and I think its a great idea. just wondering what the finished product looks like? Pictures of any other work you've done to the area would be appreciated too, keep up the good work. |
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Grover wrote:Any pictures of the finished platform? The start looks good and I think its a great idea. just wondering what the finished product looks like? Pictures of any other work you've done to the area would be appreciated too, keep up the good work.You misspelled "troll". |
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actually I like climbing manufactured routes as well, just being honest here Brah! |
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Grover wrote:actually I like climbing manufactured routes as well, just being honest here Brah! Edit: And I also like to manufacture routes.And now you're misspelling "I have nothing to say". Sigh... |
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erosion, irritation and control issues are normal for human behavior, we fuk the planet while saving it at the same time. how special we all are! |
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Boissal wrote: And now you're misspelling "I have nothing to say". Sigh...Karma |
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I am new to SLC from Cali and AZ and plead dumb perhaps after only one month here, but honestly there are wood-framed platforms built into the base of climbs I've already been on here as well as at numerous areas I've climbed in other states with erosion problems, not to mention wooden "steps" (erosion control) built into countless trails I've been on, both climbing and non-climbing related. Mt Olympus regular walking trail, for one example. Red Slab at Rock Cyn for another (ugh! chain link fence, wow, but the wooden levelers make common sense to me). Owens River Gorge for another. Countless trails around SoCal. Etc etc. I have been told the base of Slips and Perhaps (or was it Crescent Crack?) has a base man-made of some material. Of course using rock is ideal, but isn't doing it that way very difficult? I would like to understand, Is the problem the community has with the materials chosen, the lack of input from the land owners (would they actually approve construction of any kind though, doubt it for liability reasons. There aren't "building permits" that I've ever heard of for such a thing), the lack of a climbing association endorsement, the fact that a staging area wasn't finished and buried with dirt before it was "discovered" on the internet, what? I would like to understand, genuinely, as a new member of the climbing community in SLC. Thanks. |
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Or just don't build platforms in a talus slope that has been like that for a long time. One belayer can balance on a boulder. If you need 6 people watching you send go to a gym. |
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Cybele I think it boils down to the property being owned by the LDS church, and the greater climbing community fearing that one bad action will have swift and irreversible repercussions for us all. |
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Cybele, you seem well intentioned and not just trolling so I'll try to give you my perspective (keep in mind just one of many). Yes, the issue is with the lack of communication with the land owner. Trail construction always needs as you put it a "building permit." If you did something like this in a National Park without permission and you were caught you would be arrested and taken to jail. In a National Forest, you would probably be fined and might be charged for the trails/structures removal. On private land, if the owner didn't like it you could be charged with trespassing and taken to jail. |