TradGear.com

Whoa.

UtterlyFreakinRad.com is available! it's like Christmas!

rogerbenton wrote:Whoa. UtterlyFreakinRad.com is available! it's like Christmas!

Not any more….. But I'll sell it to you for 20K…thats a bargain compared to trudger.com

Ihatechrischristie.com and ihatehilaryclinton.com are available. PM me if interested.

Ryan Nevius wrote: What makes you think it's a troll?

What makes you think it is not a troll? A guy asking $50k for something that is not worth $10. Come on. I have a Petzl catalog I'll sell for $1,000. It includes free shipping!

20 kN wrote: What makes you think it is not a troll?

I'm a full-time web consultant...people really believe stuff like this is possible. It's a very common thing.

DISCLAIMER: I'm making the assumption that this is not a troll, that said:

The worth of a website, despite what many think, is not in the name but in the work put into making it a site people want to visit. When the internet started, how much do you think the domain names amazon.com and ebay.com were worth? Not much, yet they are now among the most valuable websites in the world. If some rich knucklehead bought ebay.com for $500 million but couldn't run that business properly it would go back to being worthless (well, maybe not totally worthless but you see the point).

I have run newenglandbouldering.com since 1999. From 1999 to around 2003, I put everything into that site and it was very popular and made me some money (not enough to be my full time gig but enough to make it worth the effort). I let the site go from 2003 until recently and the traffic dropped to nearly nothing (<400 page views per month). I have recently revived the site and through some hard work (producing content and promoting the site) traffic has risen to over 400 page views per day. Is the site worth anything, maybe but it isn't worth anything if there isn't someone working hard to make it interesting and a site people want to visit...

Brent Butcher wrote: There's always one person out there.

No.

There's not.

"Always" has a real specific meaning, y'know?

But what's out there are plenty of folks with something to sell that absolutely no one wants.

Joe M. wrote:DISCLAIMER: I'm making the assumption that this is not a troll, that said: The worth of a website, despite what many think, is not in the name but in the work put into making it a site people want to visit. When the internet started, how much do you think the domain names amazon.com and ebay.com were worth? Not much, yet they are now among the most valuable websites in the world. If some rich knucklehead bought ebay.com for $500 million but couldn't run that business properly it would go back to being worthless (well, maybe not totally worthless but you see the point). I have run newenglandbouldering.com since 1999. From 1999 to around 2003, I put everything into that site and it was very popular and made me some money (not enough to be my full time gig but enough to make it worth the effort). I let the site go from 2003 until recently and the traffic dropped to nearly nothing (<400 page views per month). I have recently revived the site and through some hard work (producing content and promoting the site) traffic has risen to over 400 page views per day. Is the site worth anything, maybe but it isn't worth anything if there isn't someone working hard to make it interesting and a site people want to visit...

Great example.

For another, look at RC.com. New "owners" purchased the site in ~Oct 2013, then pretty much did nothing. The place remains a ghost town with even fewer people posting than before. From the most popular rock climbing site to nothing in about 3 years. Seems to me that domain names are worth less and less as search engines become more sophisticated and content becomes king.

NC Rock Climber wrote: Great example. For another, look at RC.com. New "owners" purchased the site in ~Oct 2013, then pretty much did nothing. The place remains a ghost town with even fewer people posting than before. From the most popular rock climbing site to nothing in about 3 years. Seems to me that domain names are worth less and less as search engines become more sophisticated and content becomes king.

RC.com is a very good example, forgot about that one. Do the new owners even exist???

I disagree, however, with the search engine part. In looking at our web stats for the past 2 months (we started the new site on March 17), our hits from search engines have remained almost exactly as it was prior to our rejuvenation of the site (10 to 20 visitors per day). Maybe it takes a bit more time, but our traffic increase has mostly come from the promotion of our new content here, on reddit, and on supertopo, and from cross-links from sites like climberism. I also like to think (or maybe hope) that with quality, regular content we develop regulars who add our site to their favorites and RSS feeds and visit us regularly to see what's new.

Joe M. wrote: RC.com is a very good example, forgot about that one. Do the new owners even exist??? I disagree, however, with the search engine part. In looking at our web stats for the past 2 months (we started the new site on March 17), our hits from search engines have remained almost exactly as it was prior to our rejuvenation of the site (10 to 20 visitors per day). Maybe it takes a bit more time, but our traffic increase has mostly come from the promotion of our new content here, on reddit, and on supertopo, and from cross-links from sites like climberism. I also like to think (or maybe hope) that with quality, regular content we develop regulars who add our site to their favorites and RSS feeds and visit us regularly to see what's new.

Interesting points. Obviously you are much better informed about how SEs work and how to get hits. I am a total layman when it comes to SEO type stuff.

Yes, the owners are real. It is a guy and his wife that are occasional climbers and do some manner if IT consulting (I think). The guy made a few posts, ignored all the suggestions from the users regarding the forum and site content, said that he was working on the site infrastructure, then quit posting all together. For all practical purposes, the site is dead. The most recent "news" story on the front page is over a year old. The site was bad before he purchased it, then he basically let it slip even further. I would be curious to know what he paid for it.

NC Rock Climber wrote: The site was bad before he purchased it, then he basically let it slip even further. I would be curious to know what he paid for it.

Totally agree!

Ryan Nevius wrote: I'm a full-time web consultant...people really believe stuff like this is possible. It's a very common thing.

I guess you bring up a good point. The average person is pretty stupid. My favorite quote of all time:

“Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider”

That said, I would think someone spending $50k would be smart enough to do some research. Typically dumb people are never in a position to earn that much money in the first place.

Also, as far as the "worth" of any object goes, that is determined solely by the buyer(s), and not by any third party, nor the seller. You could have a Ferrari, but if for whatever reason you couldent sell it to anyone, then it is worth absolutely nothing. On the other hand, if I can sell my computer mouse for $1,000,000, then it's worth $1M. Objects are worth what people are willing to buy it for. If no one wants to buy your product, regardless of how much you paid for it, then it's worthless. I say that because some people think that if they pay a lot of money for something then it is worth a lot, but that is not always true.