Is leaving your dog at the base of multipitch climb really Animal abuse?

I always feel bad for those dogs owned by homeless people. The dog's gotta be thinking, "This is the longest walk ever." -or- "What the hell, I could do this on my own. Thanks for the leash."

Doggays at da crag?

Tasty protein snacks!!!

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I will be bringing benadryl to the crag a from now on. I will drug your dog, kid you not, if I see it tied up and barking uncontrollably.

I will drug them too. I am a true believer in chemical restraints. Don't mind if your pooch a little too mellow at the end of your climbing outing.

Seriously, go with 25 mg for a smaller guy 50 for a huskier fellow. Hey, if you don't get to use it on the dogs, keep it in the backpack in case your buddy has an allergy or something.

Absolutely safe for animals. In fact recommended by vet for long trips with nervous dogs.

This is amazing...I often have Benadryl in my pack.

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NOTE: I'm not endorsing doing this, or not doing it.

....or you can call a number for animal control and an officer will issue a citation to the owner of a barking dog that disrupts peace in public. That actually does make the owner think twice before bringing their dog to the crag. You can take down their plate number too and discretely file a complain
There are a few things you can do. Yor can do either or both.

Depends in the dog and the climbing area. If it's a low-volume climbing area I'll leave my dog ( who is not a barker) at the packs untied, with shade, and lots of water and he chills until we come down. If it's a busier area then no way because people can't be trusted. Some douchebag might try to "rescue" him or call the authorities...

Yep. This chick kept leaving her chi wawa in a hotel room and going to work. I sleep during the day because of work schedule so I complained a few times to the people at the office and they kept saying they will talk to her. Finally I got fed up with the pesky barking and called the cops. The officer was super nice and guess what...no more barking dog...and the people at the office are really nice to me all of a sudden. Personal experience. I will in fact tell the officer that I am afraid of your barking dog and feel threatened by it. Which will step it up a notch.

If I see an unattended animal on public land anywhere, I'm doing my best to haul it into the county / local animal control impound.

Don't leave your pets unattended.

They'll disappear if I'm around.

One thing I discovered as a dog walker and dog owner in NYC- It is that people who are unhappy with something in their life and feel unable or are unwilling to make the changes needed to fix it, are the ones who take it out on dogs.

It is one thing to be annoyed by a misbehaved dog or annoyed by their barking. It is entirely a different thing to talk about drugging a dog(or god forbid, actually act)because YOU feel a compulsion to control. No MATTER if YOU think "Benedryl isn't harmful." There is no debate on this topic. That thinking/behavior is a sign that the person who considers it has some form of stress or unhappiness in their life they are not addressing.

As for calling animal control on a dog which is happily waiting for their person, those people too have unacknowledged issues. A dog who is truly in distress, again, is a different story. But just because YOU don't like that someone doesn't follow your idea of "the rules," does not make it acceptable to waste the time and energy of overworked and underfunded animal control agencies. The next time you see a young kid in dirty raggy clothes crying in the grocery store and the parent snarking a nasty remark to shut them up, take a moment to stop and realize you see this and do...what?....yet you feel self-righteous in the thought that "I'll call animal control about that dog!!!"

Really -Take a few moments to review your life and find out what it is that is making you feel the need to lash out against animals. And then - for god's sake -work to change it.

Happiegrrrl wrote:The next time you see a young kid in dirty raggy clothes crying in the grocery store and the parent snarking a nasty remark to shut them up, take a moment to stop and realize you see this and do...what?

I think the dog issue described in this thread is more akin to leaving a child alone, crying in the middle of the store for a few hours, while the parents leave to catch a movie at the theater and everyone else just has to either (a) try to help, (b) ignore, or (c) call CPS to help.

Ryan - I am not referring to a dog in distress, but to attitudes like
If I see an unattended animal on public land anywhere, I'm doing my best to haul it into the county / local animal control impound.
and I will drug your dog, kid you not, if I see it tied up and barking uncontrollably.

MJMobes wrote:typically I leave Fluffy on the porch but I have been known to let her run loose in multi pitch areas, she is well trained, friendly, knows a crazy dog and stays away and there is no fucking way I leave my dog tied up with out someone around. She would bark if tied up even at age 14. youtube.com/watch?v=kDZRUxx…

haha dude that song is sick...

Happiegrrrl wrote:Ryan - I am not referring to a dog in distress, but to attitudes like If I see an unattended animal on public land anywhere, I'm doing my best to haul it into the county / local animal control impound. and I will drug your dog, kid you not, if I see it tied up and barking uncontrollably.

Happiegrrrl, I will impound your dog and your kid, and will tow your car if either of those things cramp my style.
That freaking song is sick! Jejeje

leon wrote: Happiegrrrl, I will impound your dog and your kid, and will tow your car if either of those things cramp my style. That freaking song is sick! Jejeje

leon/ellenor/elena sera jose, you've just confirmed every point that happiegrrrl made in her post. Now go take your meds, since you believe so strongly in chemical restraints.

I just bring my free-range organic coyote, Max.
He usually keeps things pretty quiet around the crag; after a while, usually by the third pitch.

Voice command is no problem, I just tell him to go play, and he does. It's awesome.

Happiegrrrl wrote:Ryan - I am not referring to a dog in distress, but to attitudes like If I see an unattended animal on public land anywhere, I'm doing my best to haul it into the county / local animal control impound. and I will drug your dog, kid you not, if I see it tied up and barking uncontrollably.

it was an obvious troll. I will defend you against any trolls that you do not realize in time. in this way I will win your heart.

I'm not even going into wilderness experience because there is no such thing anymore !

iceman777 come to the Dacks and I bet you'll rethink this statment.....

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