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Yeah. And I witnessed someone deck in the same spot 6 years ago. Then participated in the rescue. What does that have to do with this?

Yes. Bees do live in the second pitch of pony express.

Thanks for the clarification Greg and Ryan. I guess I don't really use the term 'set' that way.

The Blueprint Part Dank wrote:Lot of ass. Who in the hell would want to deal with your condescension face-to-face?

It's like I said. This guy reminds me of a dude I know. That dude is a total chode.

wade morris wrote:Maurice you sir are a dipshit. All Ryan was getting at was there have been a string of injuries/accidents recently and lowering off a micronut is a pretty bad idea, especially with that tree right below you.

He wasn't "just saying". If it's a bad idea, live and let live. He checked the accident reports, so it wasn't an obvious accident. No post necessary, other than to offer reacquainting the gear with it's owner. Check the arrogance and condescension at the door.

wade morris wrote:Maurice you sir are a dipshit.

Dipshit? This guy was acting like a tool. I called him on it. Chode is harmless. Calling me a dipshit takes it up a notch. Normally, I'm a pacifist. But I'd serve a chodeburger like you with a side of fries, mo freire/not really my friere.

wade morris wrote: just that its not smart to lower off a micronut.

why?

wade morris wrote: in general making practice of doing this will lead to an injury

again, why?

wade morris wrote:just that its not smart to lower off a micronut. I understand if someone had to get off quick, but in general making practice of doing this will lead to an injury

There are better ways to approach that assumption than what was presented. I think that was really most people's point. Perhaps not made so eloquently.

Maurice Chaunders wrote: Dipshit? This guy was acting like a tool. I called him on it. Chode is harmless. Calling me a dipshit takes it up a notch.

Does anybody have a ranked list for name calling?
I was wondering because I'm nut sure where wanker, ass-pimple, and butt-face fit into this ranking and want to make sure I don't cross any clear bright lines when I am trolling.
Frankly, I'm not sure where tool (One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used by someone else for their own purpose), dipshit (generally, a moron) and chode (a penis wider than it is long) fit along these lines either.

Please let me know!

just between asshat on the shitlist

i left it, can i have it back?

Until now, I've never heard of a pirate actually complaining about his plundered booty.

OK since this thread has blown up I’ll chime in again. Yes, I could/should have chosen my words in the OP more carefully. I’ll admit the tone is pretty arrogant. As Fossana said I was the 1st people on scene in a recent rescue in the canyon, I really though the kid was dying in my arms. What does that have to do with the facts of the post? Nothing. How did that event affect my outlook towards climbing risks? Massively, I thought about the accident while on the route, it was shitty. I guess this post was a way of venting my frustrations? I think I’m still trying to sort some shit out in my head, sorry it came out on the interwebs.

I’ll clean the fixed wire next time I’m in the PE area if no one else gets to it 1st. On a similar note I’d like to clean the broken wire on Sidewall also if no one else gets to that anytime soon.

^^^ dude has shit in his head

Greg D wrote:Yeah. And I witnessed someone deck in the same spot 6 years ago.

6 years ago versus a few weeks, you think you may have had a tad bit more time to process what happened?

First world problems.

By the way, add incorrect use of PAS to the list of things that can lead to death. In the last month I saw two different parties connecting themselves to a single bolt at the belay station with a PAS, even though it would be far easier to connect into a master point with your rope/clove hitch. I would not mind connecting myself to a single bolt with a locker and my rope, but not with a PAS. Leader would take off after collecting gear/anchor with belayer connected to a single bolt with that static PAS thing. Danga!

fossana wrote: 6 years ago versus a few weeks, you think you may have had a tad bit more time to process what happened?

Not to mention that the mental effects of witnessing someone deck, participating in the rescue and attending medically, and cleaning a friends blood and brains off of a rock are not always that similar. I've done all three and I tell you, I had some problems for a while. The article in R&I called 'Nobody I knew' which ran some years back discusses that in detail.
I am not sure how much this matters to anybody, but I went through a bit of a 'stage' after cleaning up a pal's internals in Eldo. And at the time it had much more effect on me when a friend quietly and politely asked me what was up and if there was a problem than it would have if he were to have ridiculed me for worrying too much or being energetic/condescending about watching for others safety.

Regardless, I think Ryan acknowledged and apologized for how his tone came across and that's good enough for me, esp since I never made a big deal of it one way or another.

I mean, seriously, what's the logic here, that someone griping on the net about someone's marginal anchor is unreasonable, but that griping about the griping is expected? Or is it really just as bad? Tool is in the eye of the name-caller.
Shrug, whatever.

Beer.

Well said, Tony. Griping about the griping probably comes from lack of groping

can i still get my micronut back?

Tony B wrote: Shrug, whatever. Beer.

Wise words. Had a nice IPA last night with my chicken.

Tony B wrote: Does anybody have a ranked list for name calling? I was wondering because I'm nut sure where wanker, ass-pimple, and butt-face fit into this ranking and want to make sure I don't cross any clear bright lines when I am trolling. Frankly, I'm not sure where tool (One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used by someone else for their own purpose), dipshit (generally, a moron) and chode (a penis wider than it is long) fit along these lines either. Please let me know!

Funny, all this time I thought a chode was the area between the testicles and the crack.

mediocre wrote: Funny, all this time I thought a chode was the area between the testicles and the crack.

That's a taint.

Ryan Kempf wrote:OK since this thread has blown up I’ll chime in again. Yes, I could/should have chosen my words in the OP more carefully. I’ll admit the tone is pretty arrogant. As Fossana said I was the 1st people on scene in a recent rescue in the canyon, I really though the kid was dying in my arms. What does that have to do with the facts of the post? Nothing. How did that event affect my outlook towards climbing risks? Massively, I thought about the accident while on the route, it was shitty. I guess this post was a way of venting my frustrations? I think I’m still trying to sort some shit out in my head, sorry it came out on the interwebs. I’ll clean the fixed wire next time I’m in the PE area if no one else gets to it 1st. On a similar note I’d like to clean the broken wire on Sidewall also if no one else gets to that anytime soon.

Did you really fix another wire after removing the first one? Really? Hahahahahaha