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rock-fencer
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Apr 4, 2014
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Columbia, SC
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 265
i have a friend with a recent (2-3 year old harness) with speed buckles that loosen....honestly i've had slippage on almost all my harnesses w/ speed buckles...its never a truly significant problem and just requires a quick pull. Much easier than the double back buckle to get snug and quick adjust for layering.
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Alexander Blum
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Apr 5, 2014
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Livermore, CA
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 143
Wilcox, that is great - I take it all back, buy MM ladies and gentleman, no one else compares
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mitchy B
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Apr 5, 2014
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nunya gotdamn business.
· Joined Aug 2009
· Points: 0
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bearbreeder
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Apr 5, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
buy what FITS YOU best ... not some other MPer go to the store and try em all on ... hang from them FIT is everything ... an ill fitting harness can easily give you the "squishy ballz syndrome" ;)
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Ray Pinpillage
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Apr 5, 2014
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
rock_fencer wrote:i have a friend with a recent (2-3 year old harness) with speed buckles that loosen....honestly i've had slippage on almost all my harnesses w/ speed buckles...its never a truly significant problem and just requires a quick pull. Much easier than the double back buckle to get snug and quick adjust for layering. Depends on the buckles. Petzl speed buckles work great and don't loosen. BD speed buckles? Not so much. My MM and Mammut buckles don't loosen either.
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Ray Pinpillage
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Apr 5, 2014
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
bearbreeder wrote:FIT is everything ... If fit was "everything" you'd be wearing an industrial hammock harness. Fit IS important but it isn't everything.
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BJ Sbarra
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Apr 5, 2014
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Carbondale, CO
· Joined Aug 2006
· Points: 671
In response to the original poster, this year's version of the Chaos seems to be quite a bit stiffer and clunkier when new than the previous one. After two solid weeks of use, it's broken in pretty good, but they definitely added some material to this one, so it doesn't feel as sleek as it used to. Hope that helps.
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rock-fencer
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Apr 5, 2014
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Columbia, SC
· Joined Dec 2009
· Points: 265
I feel like Speed buckles ability to slip (I'm talking minimal not opening) could also very well depend on how heavy one is and how often they are engaged. I'm pretty light at 160 and rarely fall. Both my deadbirds harnesses have minimal slip. I may have to adjust once during a full day out multi pitch. It's really minimal but it does happen with some models. Mileage varies I guess
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bearbreeder
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Apr 5, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
Ray Pinpillage wrote: If fit was "everything" you'd be wearing an industrial hammock harness. Fit IS important but it isn't everything. if a harness doesnt fit .. why the hell are you buying it i didnt say "comfort" ... i said FIT you dont go off wearing something that doesnt fit and go take whippers on it do u now or are you recommending the OP buys a harness that doesnt FIT ;)
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Ray Pinpillage
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Apr 5, 2014
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West Egg
· Joined Jul 2010
· Points: 180
bearbreeder wrote: if a harness doesnt fit .. why the hell are you buying it i didnt say "comfort" ... i said FIT you dont go off wearing something that doesnt fit and go take whippers on it do u now or are you recommending the OP buys a harness that doesnt FIT ;) You are a strange little man.
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bearbreeder
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Apr 5, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 3,065
Ray Pinpillage wrote: You are a strange little man. youre an angry snarky little MPer ;)
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M Mobley
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Apr 5, 2014
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Bar Harbor, ME
· Joined Mar 2006
· Points: 911
Ray Pinpillage wrote: You are a strange little man. ;)
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