Equivocation Hitch
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Interesting blog post: |
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Looks interesting, just wish his illustration of how to tie the knot was better... his hands get in the way of seeing the first step of "pull a loop through" and further ones from there... which strand is he pulling through each time? |
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David, each time you pull the opposite rope. |
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Interesting knot and a cool trick, but holy shit if that isn't a dicey setup to rap with. This is like the trad texas rope trick; but worse. |
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The release strand is quite hard to pull when the rappel strand is loaded. |
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I first saw this technique years ago on a canyoneering website. I believe they called it the "Macrame" rappelling technique. |
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Uh oh Karsten, alpine death hitch :) I don't think most recreational climbers will have much occasion to use this. I'd be curious to know how much force was applied in the testing though and see videos of it failing. I know the first time I saw that I thought it was pretty sketchy but have grown confident in it's use. Not that I have much occasion for it. Although it's saved me a sling here and there. |
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Several years ago an instructor at one of the local colleges in my area was using this hitch to rappel down from a climb his class had just finished. He fell to his death when he set up and pulled the wrong strand. It was very sad. Just be careful using this hitch. It has its uses but also has some major drawbacks. |
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I tried it. Not in anger, in my basement. As Karsten wrote it IS quite hard to pull the release side when the rappel side is loaded.Not sure I would use this for real. But, if you do, maybe clip a carabiner in the loop for everyone but the last person down. |
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Looks like a bunch of mule knots piled up on each other basically. With that being said it look sketchy as balls and not something I would use on a regular basis. |
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Not sure yet how I feel about the knot, but being right next to a pull test seems pretty sketchy... |
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Canyoneers have used this system for years to rap off trees without having to pull the full ropelength around the tree when retrieving, something that quickly grooves and then kills the tree. The application is to situations they call "ghosting," which refers to traveling the canyon without leaving any trace of one's passage. |
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rgold wrote:C They call this hitch "Macrame;"This is called a "Dufour" knot in France. Used quite extensively in mountaineering in two situations:
When I saw the knot for the first time it seemed risky, but with enough practice on the ground it's pretty obvious which strand to thread through the device and which strand is meant to pull once at the next anchor / on the ground. |
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rgold wrote: They call this hitch "Macrame;" see for example treebuzz.com/forum/images/u…RGold, thanks. The link you posted shows more "weaves" than the video Karsten made. I'd feel better about those minimum 5 weaves than the 3 shown in the video. It's surprisingly difficult to release it when under load. But, I'd still clip a carabiner in that loop for all but the last person down. |
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I like it. |