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Eric Engberg
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Apr 2009
· Points: 0
Derek Doucet wrote: No, I'm not going to say that. I'm going to say that none of your grievances have anything to do with the Gunks. Not to mention that the MP is NOT a state/national park (or BLM land which he also apparently lumps into the same category)
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Eliot Augusto
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Mar 20, 2014
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Lafayette, CO
· Joined Dec 2013
· Points: 60
NickinCO wrote: park rangers and most but not all cops. Because: - Red Rocks Scenic Loop late exit rule -Any state/national park trail that allows 1200lb roto-tillers aka horses but no mountain bikes because they ruin the trail -Any state/national park that allows horses but no dogs, because horse shit everywhere is somehow better than dog shit. -Any ranger that wakes you at 3am and asks for your permit because you're supposed to be in the bivy 300' away, even though both are unoccupied. You're going to say they don't make the rules it isn't their fault, but they do enforce them and no one forced them to take that job = douchebags. Park rangers have nothing to do with the first 2. As for the third, if you were in the right bivy then the issue would never come up. Sure, no one is there and you could sleep there with no issue. But that wasn't the agreement you made with the park. Regardless, enforcing the rules on the 10% that don't follow the rules is only a small and undesirable portion of the job. Like having to take the trash out from a restaurant. No one signs up to take the trash out, that's just 10% of the job you have to do to get the good 90%. That doesn't make them douche bags in the slightest. Now mall cops.......
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M Sprague
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Mar 20, 2014
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New England
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 5,090
Check out the new uniform they have to wear now too. Ugh! You'd think they would at least provide a cape or something to cover up.
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M Sprague
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Mar 20, 2014
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New England
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 5,090
My mistake. They are only the ones who lead the tours around Skytop.
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William Sonoma
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2012
· Points: 3,550
M Sprague said: My mistake. They are only the ones who lead the tours around Skytop. Damn...
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gtluke
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2012
· Points: 1
NickinCO wrote:fuck park rangers. There I said it. I witnessed, or rather heard the screams of, a 30+ft groundfall at the gunks last summer. Right on the route next to me while I was rapping down. By the time I could finish my rap and change my shoes, there was a Ranger on the guy and he was already orchestrating the fellow climbers to help get him on the backboard and out of the crag and into his pickup to be transported to an ambulance or helicopter. He already had a ziplock bag taped to the guy with the pieces of his elbow that shot out all over the rocks. It was very surreal, and while it freaked me out to be part of that, there was something remarkably calming about the way this Ranger handled the situation and pulled off getting this guy down those tricky steep gunks approaches from the carriage road. When I was walking back to my stuff, I decided right then that I will never, ever complain about paying my entrance fee. It wasn't even me that was hurt and it was worth every penny I've ever spent gaining access to the gunks.
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Derek Doucet
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Apr 2010
· Points: 66
gtluke wrote: I witnessed, or rather heard the screams of, a 30+ft groundfall at the gunks last summer. Right on the route next to me while I was rapping down. By the time I could finish my rap and change my shoes, there was a Ranger on the guy and he was already orchestrating the fellow climbers to help get him on the backboard and out of the crag and into his pickup to be transported to an ambulance or helicopter. He already had a ziplock bag taped to the guy with the pieces of his elbow that shot out all over the rocks. It was very surreal, and while it freaked me out to be part of that, there was something remarkably calming about the way this Ranger handled the situation and pulled off getting this guy down those tricky steep gunks approaches from the carriage road. When I was walking back to my stuff, I decided right then that I will never, ever complain about paying my entrance fee. It wasn't even me that was hurt and it was worth every penny I've ever spent gaining access to the gunks. Agreed. Though this is also a compelling argument for why paying these folks $11/hr is so absurd.
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gtluke
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined May 2012
· Points: 1
I'm just going to assume the position posted is for some college student to enjoy. The Ranger in my encounter had a stethoscope, I'll assume again that he's paid more than $11 an hour.
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NickinCO
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Mar 20, 2014
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colorado
· Joined Sep 2010
· Points: 155
Eliot Augusto wrote: Park rangers have nothing to do with the first 2. They don't?
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NickinCO
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Mar 20, 2014
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colorado
· Joined Sep 2010
· Points: 155
gtluke wrote:I'm just going to assume the position posted is for some college student to enjoy. The Ranger in my encounter had a stethoscope, I'll assume again that he's paid more than $11 an hour. sadly EMT's that work for private ambulance companies usually make less.
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Woodchuck ATC
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Mar 20, 2014
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 3,280
I'd be an awesome ranger,,letting the climbers slide by for 5 bucks I'd pocket myself, no $17+ costs per day, make the rich folks coming from Skytop pay 20 bucks to hike into Trapps on the carriage road,,,yep I'd put the place in order with no problems at all.
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Dan Austin
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Mar 20, 2014
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San Francisco, CA
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 0
kboofis wrote: LOL! How old are you? 12? Fuck all park rangers, cops, parents, teachers, vice principals, baby sitters, day care supervisors, playground overseers and cookie jar enforcers. Always trying to control me and take away my constitutional right to do whatever I want whenever I want!
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FrankPS
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Mar 20, 2014
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Atascadero, CA
· Joined Nov 2009
· Points: 276
Dan Austin wrote: Fuck all park rangers, cops, parents, teachers, vice principals, baby sitters, day care supervisors, playground overseers and cookie jar enforcers. Always trying to control me and take away my constitutional right to do whatever I want whenever I want! Yeah, rise up against the Man! Rage against the machine. Um, anarchy rules (what?). And other things, too. But I do want the cookie jar enforcers.
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