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Anyone else losing weight?

5.samadhi Süñyātá · · asheville · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 40
josh villeneuve wrote: My goals are comp bouldering related/v12 and higher. Meaning, I need very strong shoulders. So, while building my shoulder hypertrophy I gain a few pounds (bulking). I am not talking anything massive but I find it helpful to cycle on and off my "fighting weight".
I follow. How much shoulder hypertrophy do you need for bouldering though? So far the boulder problems I've encountered are more about finger strength and body tension.

I've been around the country to all the major bouldering areas many times. But then again I've only sent V8.

Seems like the 10s-12s I've seen are more about body tension than anything.

But I applaud your consistency since i've seen you post about shoulder hypertrophy before. How much have you hypertrophied your shoulders over time? Do you focus on rear deltoid or medial/front delts also????

What about pectoral hypertrophy for compression problems? Do you think/care about that or is it all shoulders for you?

I suppose we could talk privately about this (I think we have before) instead of creating thread drift.

peace Josh
5.samadhi Süñyātá · · asheville · Joined Jul 2013 · Points: 40
nicelegs wrote: Oddly enough, my mid 30's sped my metabolism up substantially. I am at the same weight now as I was when doing Ironmans in my early 20's. I'm the same weight I was when I was racing bikes in my mid 20's. I'm lighter now than when I was able to reliably send 5.13. I'm probably primed to get better than ever but between returning to school and fulltime work, I'm happy to climb once every two weeks. As for you feeling fat at 20.1, you probably need to see a psychiatrist. I'm a beanpole of rail. No ass, bony knees, and ribs everywhere. I can't imagine you are any different.
pics needed Marek to assess your mental objectivity of yourself.
reboot · · . · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125
doligo wrote: I don't know whom I'm more jealous of - him all skinny without trying or his girlfriend being sub-5' and crushing...
I'm surprised a "my girlfriend can crush harder than your girlfriend" thread hasn't been started.

Marek Sapkovski wrote:The general thought is that you want to be as thin as you can without significantly compromising your health...Steve Haston recently went on an extreme diet so he can redpoint 9a.
I actually think if you are playing the long game, it's more important to maintain a baseline level of muscular strength than a specific BMI. You can be thinner w/o risking your general health, but for training, a bit more muscular strength is beneficial to long term progress, at least that seems to be where training is gravitating toward around here. Of course, you can go on an extreme diet to send a couple grades harder, fighters, lifters do that all the time. But don't confuse that with their walking around weight. Yes, the other extreme can also be detrimental to training (as optimal technique is physique dependent).
highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion · · Colorado · Joined Oct 2012 · Points: 35
reboot wrote: I'm surprised a "my girlfriend can crush harder than your girlfriend" thread hasn't been started.
She doesn't like it when I boast about her.
Marek Sapkovski · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 65
reboot wrote: I actually think if you are playing the long game, it's more important to maintain a baseline level of muscular strength than a specific BMI. You can be thinner w/o risking your general health, but for training, a bit more muscular strength is beneficial to long term progress, at least that seems to be where training is gravitating toward around here.
Before my current occupation, I was a professional dancer which is a "gravity sport" of sorts too. The saying goes that "Ballet makes a beautiful body out of a healthy one" (sorry, does not sound as well in translation). Equally preoccupied by weight and equally bad for your joints/tendons etc - so I have a pretty good idea what to look for feeling-wise.

For climbing, I have a feel-good-training weight (around 63kg) and performance weight (around 60kg). I think letting myself above the feel-good weight is bad (hard to lose it), so I watch what I eat, but I keep it real. However, before trips I'd usually try to get down to 60kg which has been a struggle this time around.
Josh Villeneuve · · Granby, CT · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 1,814
5.samadhi wrote: I follow. How much shoulder hypertrophy do you need for bouldering though? So far the boulder problems I've encountered are more about finger strength and body tension. I've been around the country to all the major bouldering areas many times. But then again I've only sent V8. Seems like the 10s-12s I've seen are more about body tension than anything. But I applaud your consistency since i've seen you post about shoulder hypertrophy before. How much have you hypertrophied your shoulders over time? Do you focus on rear deltoid or medial/front delts also???? What about pectoral hypertrophy for compression problems? Do you think/care about that or is it all shoulders for you? I suppose we could talk privately about this (I think we have before) instead of creating thread drift. peace Josh
Its been all about the shoulders recently. A year or so ago I realized that I couldn't do really hard static moves and I was suffering from it. I had a very dynamic style which meant I had to rely sorely on difficult deadpoints. So, I decided to start building as much muscle strength as possible. I've gained a lot of strength (3 one arms on my right, and 1 on my left) but the hypertrophy hasn't been much. Mostly because I made the mistake of (cutting) without the aid of protein and creatine.
I've lost so much weight that finger strength hasn't really been a factor and I don't tend to climb much compression outside. Which is
why I tend to get wrecked indoors because everything over v7 is fatty sloper pinches with lots of compression.
All or most of my fat goes to my thighs and calves so my core instantly improves from dropping that weight hahaha.

Most of the v10s-v12s I look at don't really require that most tension though. They are usually about ridiculous lock off strength or hard deadpoints. I am not much of a crazy cave climber though...think more along the lines of "The Mandala" hideous crimpfests!!!
Charles Kinbote · · Brooklyn, NY · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 5

Whoa, some of you guys are light. I'm a hair over 170 and I'm going to see how I feel at 160. If that goes well, I'll try getting to the low 150's. Pretty sure I'd have to cut off a leg to make 140.

TBlom · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2004 · Points: 360

I pretty much get paid to stay in shape.
I got pretty fat in grad school, around 220 and very soft. Working at a computer is death!
After graduation I started back in construction work. 14 months later my waist is 4 inches less. Have not weighed myself in a while, probably still hovering around 200, but its muscle instead of fat now...
I should probably start climbing again :0

An inspirational photo for you all:

fat guy lowering

Optimistic · · New Paltz · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 450

Just a little update for other gravitationally challenged MP'ers: using the Noom app mentioned above to log diet and exercise, and pretty happy with it so far.

Basically just been following the calorie limit, which is getting easier and easier to do as the days go on...I think I had really developed some seriously crappy eating habits, and the app is a nice way to curb that. Especially impressed with how consistently eating better and eating less has reduced my appetite.

Anyway, ~1800 cal/day (the app varies your limit based on exercise), trying to really favor the veggies and fruits and such. Exercise has been moderate, bouldering 3x/wk and a about 3 sessions total of light cardio. Lost 4 pounds in 2 weeks without too much effort. 16 left to go, I'm sure that'll require dialing up the cardio at some point.

Meme Guy · · Land of Runout Slab · Joined Sep 2013 · Points: 325

Too much alcohol and sugar, not enough activity.

I'm in the best shape of my life because I quit drinking soda, bought a farm, and started eating veggies, chickens, and eggs from said farm. The work on the farm is hard and physically demanding and keeps me from sleeping the days away. I still get roaring drunk in Roaring Gap though.

Daily intake is about 3500-4000 calories still pretty high, but I get them from decent sources.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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