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Cody Ice Festival Shenanigans

Rob Cotter · · Silverthorne, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 240
Mike Snyder wrote:
What message is this 9-year old kid taking away from your class, Don?
Submitted By: Mike Snyder on Feb 20, 2014

That dry-tooling be some dank sh*t.

Crush it little brutha!
Rob Cotter · · Silverthorne, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 240

Ice tools certainly mark up the rock. All the granite crags in Rocky that see dry tooling are heavily scarred...

Tom-onator · · trollfreesociety · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 790

What became of the breakfast roast beat down?

Jim Amidon · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2001 · Points: 850
OMG


REMOVE THOSE UNSIGHTLY AND UGLY BOLTS AND LET THE ROCK BE


I mean the rock was defaced when it was bolted, shiny things all over the place, how can I enjoy my roadside garbage dump with these unsightly things there reflecting sunshine off of the natural rock while I look at the views of the man made lake across the way with the tourist traffic driving by on the way to Yellowstone......

I hope some of you pukes actually show up to talk to Don........

I wasn't there but have been to numerous festivals before and Don has always been accommodating and extremely friendly to all that come....

Maybe y'all just should only go to Ouray, and TR to your hearts delight and then attend each event the festival has and be prepared to pay up to $25 dollars for every door you walk thru..........

Bunch of posers.......
Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Jim Amidon wrote:OMG REMOVE THOSE UNSIGHTLY AND UGLY BOLTS AND LET THE ROCK BE I mean the rock was defaced when it was bolted, shiny things all over the place, how can I enjoy my roadside garbage dump with these unsightly things there reflecting sunshine off of the natural rock while I look at the views of the man made lake across the way with the tourist traffic driving by on the way to Yellowstone...... I hope some of you pukes actually show up to talk to Don........ I wasn't there but have been to numerous festivals before and Don has always been accommodating and extremely friendly to all that come.... Maybe y'all just should only go to Ouray, and TR to your hearts delight and then attend each event the festival has and be prepared to pay up to $25 dollars for every door you walk thru.......... Bunch of posers.......
So Jim, your hostility and anger comes through loud and clear to me, but not your point.

Are you suggesting that because the crag was "damaged" (I prefer the word changed, FWIW) by bolts, then anything goes? Because every route that gets done, even by stealth soloist first ascensionists is changed and "damaged" in some way. So by extension, every route is fair game for anyone to modify however they wish?
Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 974
Brock Smith wrote:The granite at the island falls somewhere between 6 and 7 on the mohs hardness scale which is the standard for measuring the hardness of minerals, if you look at this link it shows that steel does not scratch a mineral with of this hardness. Sorry to prove you wrong with science but that is what educated people do. This being said I promise that I will never be dry tooling any established rock routes again obviously, although I didn't plan on it as I posted earlier. My earlier post about fremont canyon and the rushmore needles was more about comparing the rock quality of this area to more well know crags than to say "I was going to go dry tool them"
Brock, are you still arguing that ice tools don't damage granite? Because I'll bet that anyone who's actually spent much time around mixed crags would disagree with you.

Also, your initial post, since edited, certainly gave me the impression that you wouldn't mind if folks dry tooled on your local crags of Fremont Canyon and the Black Hills. Have you changed your mind? Consulted other locals on their opinion?

Furthermore, are you still suggesting that it's ok to travel to someone else's crag and dry tool there, over their objections? Not exactly being a considerate visitor!
Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145
Don Foote · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 20

Patrick Scott Mees-
I've heard rumors about you.... is this the same Pat Mees who dropped a rope trying to take his girlfriend ice climbing in Cody and spent the night freezing your tails off in the south fork valley and now you live in Morian, Iowa?
Have you thought about how ridiculous these posts are hurting the industry of both ice and rock. The great sponsors who support Cody Ice Climbing Festival also support many across Wyoming. I know you don’t live here and you enjoy your social media but try to have some courtesy for other great events like Ten Sleep, Lander, Vedauwoo, Devil’s Tower, Access Fund, American Alpine Club and even the new Bighorn Climbers Coalition and their board of directors.
I’ve meet face to face with Todd and Mike and yet you keep the fire going. Well Pat, I don't need to pour fuel on the social media fire so why don’t you email me and we can talk like adults. I might be passing thru Iowa next month so I can stop and see you…

Don Foote JR
Cody Ice Climbing Festival
donfoote@southforkice.com

The Blueprint Part Dank · · FEMA Region VIII · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 460

Jesus's, get a room. All of you. So lame. This has been the funniest MP thread in a while. Not only has this horse been beaten past death, I think you're beating the stomachs of the Mongolians who grilled and ate the dead horse.

Highlights of the absurdity:

1. Brock Smith's posts arguing ethics. LOLz bro, you were taking a clinic, immediately invalidating your opinion as a climber in my book.
2. The dude who went to Wikipedia to see the hardness scale of the granite. Claiming that "science" proved that there was no way the tools could have gouged the rock. Except, for, you know. The pictures showing it had.
3. The offers to "meet up to discuss things". Where I come from. That means that there's going to to be a brawl. Though I assume that, in this scenario, all that resulted was the drinking of espresso and kind words.
4. The fact that is Mees dude just absolutely flipped his shit on this Snyder dude, and it took over a week for it to come out that dude bro dropped his rope ice climbing with his girlfriend. Then moved to Iowa (which, appropriately enough stands for "Idiots Out Walking Around") that would have been good info to have earlier, because it pretty much makes me disrespect his insight completely (see highlight #1)

Tom-onator · · trollfreesociety · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 790
The Blueprint Part Dank wrote:Jesus's, get a room. All of you. So lame. This has been the funniest MP thread in a while. Not only has this horse been beaten past death, I think you're beating the stomachs of the Mongolians who grilled and ate the dead horse. Highlights of the absurdity: 1. Brock Smith's posts arguing ethics. LOLz bro, you were taking a clinic, immediately invalidating your opinion as a climber in my book. 2. The dude who went to Wikipedia to see the hardness scale of the granite. Claiming that "science" proved that there was no way the tools could have gouged the rock. Except, for, you know. The pictures showing it had. 3. The offers to "meet up to discuss things". Where I come from. That means that there's going to to be a brawl. Though I assume that, in this scenario, all that resulted was the drinking of espresso and kind words. 4. The fact that is Mees dude just absolutely flipped his shit on this Snyder dude, and it took over a week for it to come out that dude bro dropped his rope ice climbing with his girlfriend. Then moved to Iowa (which, appropriately enough stands for "Idiots Out Walking Around") that would have been good info to have earlier, because it pretty much makes me disrespect his insight completely (see highlight #1)
:^)
Trad Princess · · Not That Into Climbing · Joined Jan 2012 · Points: 1,175
The Blueprint Part Dank wrote:Jesus's, get a room. All of you. So lame. This has been the funniest MP thread in a while. Not only has this horse been beaten past death, I think you're beating the stomachs of the Mongolians who grilled and ate the dead horse. Highlights of the absurdity: 1. Brock Smith's posts arguing ethics. LOLz bro, you were taking a clinic, immediately invalidating your opinion as a climber in my book. 2. The dude who went to Wikipedia to see the hardness scale of the granite. Claiming that "science" proved that there was no way the tools could have gouged the rock. Except, for, you know. The pictures showing it had. 3. The offers to "meet up to discuss things". Where I come from. That means that there's going to to be a brawl. Though I assume that, in this scenario, all that resulted was the drinking of espresso and kind words. 4. The fact that is Mees dude just absolutely flipped his shit on this Snyder dude, and it took over a week for it to come out that dude bro dropped his rope ice climbing with his girlfriend. Then moved to Iowa (which, appropriately enough stands for "Idiots Out Walking Around") that would have been good info to have earlier, because it pretty much makes me disrespect his insight completely (see highlight #1)
This is quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever read on MP, and that includes the beta on Open Book at Tahquitz.
Jerkface · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2012 · Points: 10

Looking back on this I now realize how in the wrong I was, I was getting into a new sport and young and pissed off after being called out for some poor decisions. I had no right to pull this stunt and don't plan on ever doing anything like it again. Despite what my actions and words at this time may indicate, I truly am an avid environmentalist and have utmost respect for nature and our precious resources. I am truly ashamed of my actions at the island and moreso of my responses on this forum, I had no right. Please try and forgive me for my foolish actions. The island truly is a beautiful place and I would like to return to climb there with only rock gear of course. But only if the locals that I disrespected can find it in them to forgive me for my foolishness and are OK with it.

Sincerely,
Jerkface (aka Brock Smith)

Mr. Southfork · · Roberts, MT · Joined Feb 2014 · Points: 15

Here he is now. RIP (Rest in Prison)

Foote sentenced to prison for stalking Laurel women | Local News | codyenterprise.com 

 

Rob Cotter · · Silverthorne, CO · Joined Mar 2009 · Points: 240
Mr. Southfork wrote:

Here he is now. RIP (Rest in Prison)

Foote sentenced to prison for stalking Laurel women | Local News | codyenterprise.com 

 

Sentenced to 37 months in federal penitentiary simply unbelievable he has two daughters I thought.

https://www.powelltribune.com/stories/cody-man-in-federal-prison-for-harassing-montana-woman,30380
 

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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