It takes a out of state climber to know this needed to be changed out! I was in on the last gate as well and that only lasted 4 years. This New Gate was payed for by less than 10 climbers.(they know who they are)The new gate will be used by hundreds of users/climbers 6 months or more a year and maybe once or twice a year by two ranchers. I had Pete/one rancher shake my hand...they seem to love climbers.