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Consolidating the Washington home page

Micah Klesick · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,971

I'm working on the quantity of routes. I've added a couple areas in the gorge already, and have plans for multiple more areas. I haven't been adding that many routes as of yet, as I'd like to get more of the areas out so that people can see the potential, while I'm working on getting routes in. There is really no climbing from St Helens north to Rainer, so its clumping a lot of stuff together that isn't near each other.
also, Bridge of the Gods is in the wrong area, its in the SW-C area, and id like to move that over. I've got two areas that are in the same area that I'll be adding this week.

Pete Spri · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2009 · Points: 347

Hey Micah-

Just start posting the areas (assuming permission) even if there aren't any routes detailed. That would at least help. Maybe you could do a sub-division and say "Columbia River Gorge Area" within SE-C and then add your areas inside of that.

Also, I realize that there may not be much rock in between Rainier and Helens, but the Beckey climbing books have enough alpine climbs that I don't want to assume there won't be anything there.

At least those were my thoughts on it. It's great to have a local climber down there posting stuff up. I've always thought that the gorge should have more rock. Somehow the Oregonians took it!

Micah Klesick · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,971

Thanks for the comments. I've added areas over the past couple days, and there are now 11 areas in the gorge that have been added. I also added a page with a list of gorge climbs and links to the respective cliffs. There are about 5 more cliffs in the area, but since I haven't personally been to them, I'm waiting to add them.
and as far as good climbing goes, WA has far more areas than OR, so its kinda funny they they decided to put Beacon in OR... Oh well.

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

Nice work Micah.

I'm looking forward to seeing a few photos of these areas - the Hamilton Boulders in SW-Cascades in particular sound intriguing.

For OH8, it would help to have a brief written directions for getting there. I suppose you were going to add it later, but just in case...

The Google Maps links are a nice addition.

Micah Klesick · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,971

I added the written directions to OH8.
Also added some pictures and a 18 min video to the Hamilton boulders of some sending by the developers. Check them out! Planning to add more as I get pictures.

DrApnea · · Wenatchee, WA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 265
DrApnea wrote:thanks for cleaning things up a bit. The Leavenworth Area Bouldering contains Tumwater bouldering and Icicle Creek bouldering, both of which now have a natural place to put them in their respective regions in the Central East Cascades section. Only leaving mountain home boulders
bump:
any chance of moving the bouldering into their regions for central east cascades region as noted above?
Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

Thanks for the bump DrApnea.

I moved Icicle Creek & Tumwater bouldering to their specific areas. But to make the bouldering stand out as not just being another climbing area, I put "**" in front of their titles so they appear at the top of the list. If you have any better idea, let me know. I did the same for the "Bouldering at Index" sub-area.

DrApnea · · Wenatchee, WA · Joined May 2011 · Points: 265

Thanks for moving the bouldering into their locations and all the other organizational work you have done. I think the “**” at the front of bouldering is unnecessary as anyone looking for bouldering can just scroll to "Bouldering: Tumwater", "Bouldering: Icicle Creek" or something like that. But that is just my opinion. If this were a site wide change to more easily identify bouldering I would be all for it, but I don't think it is necessary if only changing it for only a few bouldering locations as looking through the dozen subareas for one called bouldering seems sufficient.

Also the Mountain Home section is alone in its own section called Mountain Home (Leavenworth) Area.

One thing on the names: you have made a few really long names that end up pushing them onto a second line, sometimes only for the parenthesis/# of climbs. Not anything that really needs to be addressed, but from an aesthetic standpoint could be fixed by shortening the names, or considering name length on future name changes.
Examples:
Under the main Central Washington Eastside section: "Mountain Home (Leavenworth) Area (9)"
This one only has the "(9)" on a second line (at least in my browser and persists even when resizing the screen). Calling it Bouldering: Leavenworth, Mountain Home, East Leavenworth, or something like that would make it more aesthetically pleasing by pushing the (9) back onto the line it belongs to.
Same thing on "** Bouldering in Tumwater Canyon (45)"

Sorry for all the suggestions. Ignore them if you want.

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

You're right, the second line for names ruins the flow. Maybe we can use an acronym, or add an acronym finish, with an explanation at the start of the description.

I think the full name should be stated, so am not in favor of simply truncating the name. I'll might play around, see what looks OK.

And I'll check out the other suggestions soon. Thanks!

Matthias Holladay · · On the Road...Looking for a… · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 7,494

I have said before that if someone takes over Charnie's post of Julia's Outcrop (this is what I named it) AKA Gov. Lister Cliff, under B'ham Area, and then removes my post, I would have no problem with it . . . The redundancy is pointless; her last visit was 2010, so I don't think she's monitoring her page...

calvino · · Sedro Woolley · Joined May 2010 · Points: 425

The Julia's Outcrop information appears twice. Once in Bellingham Area and in Northwest Region. Jon, I sent a PM about this. It would be awesome to combine this in the Bellingham Area section without losing beta, comments, photos, etc. Also, I vote to name it Governor Lister, as this is the colloquial name and how it appears in guide books (of course, due respect to Julia should be included in the description)

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

Thanks Calvin for this info and your PM.

There is no easy way to merge duplicate areas, but I moved everything to the listing under "Bellingham Area". It will take a little more time to go through the duplicate routes and move photos, comments, and descriptions.

I hope there aren't other duplicate areas in WA...

Micah Klesick · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,971

Also, I just noticed "The Bypass" is in the Yakima area, and needs to be in the NW corner area.

calvino · · Sedro Woolley · Joined May 2010 · Points: 425

I misunderstood Matthias' post. I thought he was suggesting removing the name. No intention of stepping on toes. Perhaps, Governor Lister in parenthesis for the title would help people search and find beta.

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

Micah, can you give better directions to The Bypass?

Right now, the Description has "The Bypass is a small sport climbing area located 10 minutes from White Salmon, WA." The Location has just "If you are interested in the location and route info for The Bypass drop me an email... "

If it is west of White Salmon, then I guess it might be in the "SW-C" (southwest Cascades) region.

It sounds a little like a secret area.

Micah Klesick · · Charlotte, NC · Joined Aug 2013 · Points: 3,971

Whoops. Sorry, yes it should be in the SW-C area. Currently, there are some access issues, which is why there is no directions to it as of now.

Jacob Schmidt · · Eugene, OR · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 110

In Arizona the overview is broken down into Northern, Central, and Southern. This was very helpful when I was living there. Washington could be divided into Olympic, Western, Central, and Eastern. Just a suggestion. No reason to listen to it.

Jon Nelson · · Redmond, WA · Joined Sep 2011 · Points: 8,196

Micah, thanks, I moved The Bypass over.

Jacob - yes, Arizona is what got me to thinking about this whole thing. We've got 10 regions instead of 3, but it's the same idea.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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