A New Kind of Chalkbag
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Hey guys, |
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Obligatory devil's advocate: |
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I dont really get it. i (and most people i think)just want a big bag to jam my hand into. i dont know anyone who uses chalk balls. |
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It could be of use in high wind. Of course, my hands are usually pretty dry in high wind. |
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The sock opens up so you can switch from ball to loose on the fly. |
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You can send one to me for field testing... |
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vadk wrote:Does the Hula give you something to actually grab onto in the bag? From the diagram it seems like when you reach in you get chalk on the outside of your hand.the HULA's chalkball is shaped like a ring or a donut circling the inside of the bag. When it's filled with chalk there is plenty to grab. " The Kangaroo's chalksock seems one-sided, in that your hand needs to be in a particular orientation to grab the sock. Is the sock stitched into the far side of the bag or the climber side? " When I first heard the idea that was my first concern as well. The Kangaroo's chalkpouch is stitched to the far side of the bag when you are wearing it. That may seem unintuitive but extensive testing and my own experience showed that is actually the most natural position and it works perfectly. You can test this yourself if you have a chalkbag handy -- stick your hand in and see which side your palm face -- away from you or towards you? "what about a bag like the kangaroo but with a bottom-loading feature that would allow a chalksock easily grabbed at any angle from the top? " I thought of this bottomloading idea too -- briefly. The problem is that chalkballs need to puff up for you to have something to grab. The existence of gravity means a bottom loading chalksock would be pulled downwards and would pretty much suck ergonomically. Also it just isn't necessary and I don't think it would chalk up better either. Like I said the kangaroo's chalkpouch seems unintuitive visually but having tested it for 7 months I can say without a doubt it chalks up easily and well . I have 2 types of chalkballs at home and 3 chalkbags but for the last 7 months I've only used the Kangaroo. |
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andyelliott wrote:I dont really get it. i (and most people i think)just want a big bag to jam my hand into. i dont know anyone who uses chalk balls.Most people don't use chalkballs because - they cost dollars, take an effort to fill, and they give you LESS chalk per dip -- that seems like a ripoff! In reality chalkballs work better for most people. They give the right amount of chalk for most people, and they can get chalk on your palms. They also save you chalk and cut down on dust They arent perfect though - with loose chalk you dip and you have chalk. with a ball you need to find the ball and pick it up and grab it. They can fall out too. With these new bags the problems - effort to fill, effort to chalk up, and spilling are addressed. The fabric is also chosen to dispense a lot of chalk. These seem like silly issues until you think about how often you are chalking up on a climb. It makes a difference. |
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Thanks John, I have mentioned pricing to the team. |
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Your user name says it all...danger...yer gonna die. |
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best chalk bag ziplock, best chalk borax. |
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"When I first heard the idea that was my first concern as well. The Kangaroo's chalkpouch is stitched to the far side of the bag when you are wearing it. That may seem unintuitive but extensive testing and my own experience showed that is actually the most natural position and it works perfectly. You can test this yourself if you have a chalkbag handy -- stick your hand in and see which side your palm face -- away from you or towards you?" |
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How about using two interior balls? It may be a hit with the galls! |
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Lol we'll consider that, Kangaru. |
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Congrats. You've reached the $5000 goal. I look forward to receiving my bag. Hopefully I'll get the opportunity to use it in the fight against the swampy of a Taiwan summer again soon... |
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andyelliott wrote:I dont really get it. i (and most people i think)just want a big bag to jam my hand into. i dont know anyone who uses chalk balls.I actually prefer chalk balls over others. I might be biased because the loose chalk at the local places is always so much greater than the chalk balls, but generally, I can get chalk when I squeeze and it's perfect. |
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I use a chalk ball. |
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Thanks for all the support guys! Stay ballin' ;-) |
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I am not sure one needs a special chalk bag to reap the benefits of loose chalk and a ball. I use a ball and loose chalk in my standard eBay express chalk bag, and it works fine. I have never had an issue using just the ball, just the loose chalk or both. |
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Ha! I've been trying to convince various manufacturers to make a chalk bag with integrated chalk sock for thirty years. No one I spoke to was interested. Hope this effort works out. I just pledged for a Hula. |
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andyelliott wrote: i dont know anyone who uses chalk balls.I don't know anyone who doesn't. |