New (big!) gym opening in Golden - Earthtreks

could someone please build a nice gym in Glenwood Springs?

I am very excited to hear that this gym is coming to golden. As someone who currently walks three miles to the Golden Community Center to train (No car or bike) the new location is literally right next to where I live.I will definitely have a membership and likely be there daily to train. I also plan on applying for a position there as soon as the process starts. Stoked!

coop wrote:could someone please build a nice gym in Glenwood Springs?

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As someone whose kids were on the ET youth team at the time, I think I can speak with some authority in saying that ET handled an awful situation incredibly well.

Almost all of the kids who were on team at the time are still climbing there (in fact, they may all be--we moved away just after this all occurred) which I think is about the highest praise possible for how management handled it. Further, if we still lived in the area, my kids would still be climbing for ET.

I'll see you in June, Eli, and we can talk more then if you want.

Matt.

Eli Helmuth wrote:Hopefully ET does a better job of supervising its employees in CO than it did at home, but with four big gyms now, that's a lot of responsibility. With two coaches arrested last year for sex with a kid they were coaching, not really psyched to see them in our area and keeping my children away from there for sure. dpmclimbing.com/articles/vi… Wonder how big of a problem this is in the gym-kid-coaching culture?

Doesn't seem like ET did anything to enable this, and it seems like they've handled it quite well since. IMO, this whole scandal was blown way out of proportion in the first place, and it's slightly annoying to see it resurfacing.

Went by the site this morning, framing is getting there, I'd say they are still 4-6 months out.

Mid November opening. In two weeks the roof and much of the exterior walls will be done. The first Walltopia shipment comes in early Sept. The sprinklers are currently being installed. HVAC, plumbing, etc is all teed up and ready for installation, starting in two weeks (everything is already in the slab). Full speed ahead.

CBW wrote:Mid November opening.

great timing!

I easily see this as raising the property value of our house in Golden, sooooo pumped! It was the only real thing that sucked about moving from Boulder. And then BOOM! problem solved.

did they open yet? anyone have an update?

Nathaniel K wrote:did they open yet? anyone have an update?

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Hmm, only 11% (20) of the routes are 5.12a-5.13d. I'm starting to feel underwhelmed with this huge new gym.

I think you're being a little harsh there Eli. It sounds like they handled things way better than the Vatican or Penn State. This is an awful, mean terrible world, and sometimes the most normal seming person is the most deranged and evil. Once my kids are older, I will actually be MORE inclined to put my kids onto an ET program than another gym that hasn't shown the ability to handle this sticky situation.

reboot wrote: facebook.com/Earth.Treks.Go… secure.thesendspot.com/vc/g… Hmm, only 11% (20) of the routes are 5.12a-5.13d. I'm starting to feel underwhelmed with this huge new gym.

Maybe do some research before knocking them...

I think I saw something on their website that said they would have around 300 routes. Since these statistics show around 190 routes that would lead me to believe there are roughly 100 more routes to go.

JerryN wrote: Maybe do some research before knocking them... I think I saw something on their website that said they would have around 300 routes

I've done mine & posted the links. Pulling a number out of your ass isn't considered research anywhere.

The raw square footage of this place is less than twice the size of Movement & Movement typically have just over 100 routes, I'll let you do the math.

I don't want to get in any arguments about research...I'm a professor in my real job, so that's what I read MP to get away from, but, ET-Timonium is listed as having 374 routes, and its about 1/2 the size of ET-Golden, so I don't think that they are done setting quite yet in Golden.

As far as Movement goes, they may have 100ish ropes, but I'd be very surprised if they only have 100 routes.

Matt Roberts wrote:ET-Timonium is listed as having 374 routes, and its about 1/2 the size of ET-Golden, so I don't think that they are done setting quite yet in Golden.

I've never been to an ET, but the Timonium location is listed as being 20,000 sqft vs 28,500 for the Golden location. The # you've quoted includes boulder problems. Still, ET Golden probably hasn't finished setting. But that doesn't change the route distribution though. If the MD is followed, the Golden location may have 30 routes in the 5.12a-13.d range (that'd put this higher than any of the other ET locations). In my book, that's still a decidedly "meh".

reboot wrote: I've done mine & posted the links. Pulling a number out of your ass isn't considered research anywhere. The raw square footage of this place is less than twice the size of Movement & Movement typically have just over 100 routes, I'll let you do the math.

http://www.earthtreks.com/co

Bottom of the page:

"The gym has over 300 roped routes and over 100 boulder problems"

I pulled that from their website by doing my research.

I wouldn't be too concerned about the route distribution. These guys are new in town and they just haven't noticed yet how many people around these parts climb 5.12 and up. They'll figure it out soon enough. In the mean time, it looks like there will be ample bouldering :) Anyway, the most important factor in any gym is route-setting. If the route setting is imaginative, the gym will be good. Hopefully they've recruited some skilled route-setters.

Anyway, my main hope for this gym is that it helps build a community out of the West Denver climbing scene.

I am a bit puzzled that they aren't here, on MP.com, posting photos and drumming up hype among their primary customer base. Unless they have some other primary customer base in mind....

reboot wrote: Hmm, only 11% (20) of the routes are 5.12a-5.13d. I'm starting to feel underwhelmed with this huge new gym.

Don't be too concerned. Do realize that they are not done setting yet, and they've been setting routes as they've been building. The shorter vertical walls were the first to be finsihed, and the first to be set, hence the large number of really easy routes on the basis of current percentages. The big steep walls, which should be expected to contain most of the hard routes, have just been getting finished up in the last week or so, and hence they aren't done setting these. I'd be pretty suprised (an disappointed...) if a large batch of harder routes didn't go up soon. From the sound of it, they've brought in a batch of strong climbers as part fo the setting crew, and they certainly have the steep terrain for good hard rotues, so I bet we can expect good things on this front.

Monomaniac wrote:I wouldn't be too concerned about the route distribution. These guys are new in town and they just haven't noticed yet how many people around these parts climb 5.12 and up. They'll figure it out soon enough. In the mean time, it looks like there will be ample bouldering :) Anyway, the most important factor in any gym is route-setting. If the route setting is imaginative, the gym will be good. Hopefully they've recruited some skilled route-setters. Anyway, my main hope for this gym is that it helps build a community out of the West Denver climbing scene. I am a bit puzzled that they aren't here, on MP.com, posting photos and drumming up hype among their primary customer base. Unless they have some other primary customer base in mind....

Oh they are GOOD! They are very good! Can't wait to check them out when we swing by CO in Feb!