The GriGri Ultimate Idiot Tape Scheme

And I thought Petzl had nailed it with the picture of guy in the diaper on one side and the hand on the other.

I'm the guy in the Diaper your the Hand!

Not sure which this taping scheme screams more:

--I am SO clever and special!

--I am an idiot.

Not trying to be harsh, just pointing out that it doesn't take much DIY or other nonsense to make me avoid climbing with folks I don't know.

PULL TESTING has always been the gold standard, and it does remind one to check for 'two points', 'good knot', etc. every time.

Petzl diagram seems fine to me, as is a good understanding of how the device works......

It's much more fun convincing everyone their gri-gri is some kind of death device and watching them treat it like a loaded weapon.

Jon Zucco wrote:How does one mess up threading an ATC? How is that possible?

I saw this once at a gym and once outside on the cliff: The rope was threaded into one slot of the ATC, around a carabiner and out the OTHER slot of the ATC.

The girl at the gym was very appreciative when corrected. The guy outside insisted that his AMGA guide friend had taught him that way. "After all, that's why it had two slots in the first place...."

wivanoff wrote: I saw this once at a gym and once outside on the cliff: The rope was threaded into one slot of the ATC, around a carabiner and out the OTHER slot of the ATC.

I believe you, but that just blows my mind....

coldfinger wrote:Not sure which this taping scheme screams more: --I am SO clever and special! --I am an idiot.

Hey man I think the thread title answers your question, except the correct phrase is "I am an ultimate idiot!" :)

Btw, for the doubters, still going strong after a year of use:

Keep 'dem zingers coming MPers!

Keep in mind that yours is a new GriGri, but with older ones threaded correctly I have seen a FAIL with the pull test and a skinny cord due to wear. Therefore, I don't feel visual inspection alone is enough. Easier to see you pulling and the thing locking at ten feet or more than some spots of tape.

So I guess I don't see the point.

Seems things like where you belay from (i.e. out from the base), how you hold the device (i.e. to pay slack out and keep it from locking), how much slack you pay out, where the rope is running, is there a knot in the end etc. etc. are all way more important.

As for the idiot thing, I just suppose the thread title can be read more than one way.

due to wear, or due to using a cord outside of the specs for the device?

It was wear, was obviously worn, even steel wears if one does a lot of sandstone.

Dan Felix wrote: I believe you, but that just blows my mind....

Yeah. I posted it once before:
mountainproject.com/v/how-d…

Jon Zucco wrote:How does one mess up threading an ATC? How is that possible?

My favorite, from the gym: the guy had actually threaded up everything just fine...until the part where he clipped his locker into the wristwatch on his gear loop instead of into his belay loop. The guy he was belaying was about 6 inches below the top, at which point noticed what was up, yelped up to him to stay put, and got my wife to put the guy on belay while I held a death grip Russian belay on the rope.

The pictures on the inside indicating which side is for the climber is too confusing?

frankstoneline wrote:The pictures on the inside indicating which side is for the climber is too confusing?

Very

Optimistic wrote: My favorite, from the gym: the guy had actually threaded up everything just fine...until the part where he clipped his locker into the wristwatch on his gear loop instead of into his belay loop. The guy he was belaying was about 6 inches below the top, at which point noticed what was up, yelped up to him to stay put, and got my wife to put the guy on belay while I held a death grip Russian belay on the rope.

I guess the answer is; anything is possible if you are an idiot... Haha, nice save on that one.

so the not one but TWO PiCTURES petzl puts in/on there is not good enough huh? if you cant thread the deivce right, put in down get a tube and learn to belay in a way that teaches you to provide friction instead of waiting for the device to do it for you. I am sick of teaching people how to not kill each other with this thing.

If your belayer needs this tape scheme to properly work the GriGri maybe reconsider using it in the first place.

+1 on the PULL TEST - for both belay device and harness knot.