Booty Rules!

This is great! Ive mostly considered booty to be a form of litter, if I can clean it I'm a custodian and will add it to my gigantic pile of booty that I decorate my christmass tree with. I got a cam stuck in eldo once and when I went back it was gone. I say thanks to who ever cleaned it. If you don't want to loose your shit, don't leave it behind. Its not stealing its cleaning. If all booty was left shit would be everywhere. It teaches good lessons and you will learn from your mistakes. Don't be a sissy la la pants!!!

ScoRo wrote:the only comments that truly bothered me was about beating peoples 'punk ass'. .

I don't think whining will get us anywhere so what do you suggest, wewe throw a party for the thief and give them a rim job?

My recommendation? Someone said it better in the past.

"Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt"

Violence isn't the answer to thievery and you know it. Quit trying to pick a fight. Your comment serves no purpose, offers nothing constructive, and is pretty disrespectful. People say a lot of things online that they would never say in person; I'm going to assume you didn't intend to represent yourself in the manner you did.

Ever heard of poker rules? Seems like they'd be a great guideline for these forums, work meetings, friendly conversations, etc. Try and add something to the pot, not simply take away.

D.Buffum wrote: How about ask for your gear back, and if they refuse, call the cops.

Word, but that doesn't prove my manhood, and I thought that is what this game was about according to the OP and the subsequent posts.

ScoRo wrote: Violence isn't the answer to thievery and you know it. .

Well, at least half the population of the world disagrees with this sentimental nonsense.

How do you know what I believe or is this just a fancy way to win an argument?

+1 Matt N and D.Buffum

In the interest of maintaining a semblance of my integrity, I think I'm done with this mess.

Yes JQ, climbers have a proud tradition of stealing from each other, kinda like stockbrokers.

So rimjobs are entirely appropriate.

I wouldn't expect something I've left out of my supervision for even a moment to be there when I returned.

Think of your stuff as a tasty chicken sandwich: Any critter in the area is going to take advantage of the situation if you leave them an opportunity.

Bottom line- Be Responsible For Your Things.

I've never lost anything that wasn't a direct result of my own failure to keep it.

As the leaver of booty:
If it's stuck and I can't free it, or my second can't free it and I decide not to rap after it, it's booty. If I'm bailing, not planning to reclaim it later, it's booty. If I'm bailing but planning to reclaim, it's not booty; but if someone arrives in the meantime and claims it as booty, I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch fighting them; getting off a rock when I need to get off, wins.

As the finder of booty:
If it looks like fixed gear that was left because someone couldn't clean it: booty. If it looks like gear that was left by mistake or by bailing, I'm happy to reconnect gear with it's owner; but burden is on the owner to make it clear that gear was left, not the finder to seek out the owner.

Posting about left gear is entirely legit. Getting pissy about left gear disappearing is not. Don't leave it unless 'getting off' is more valuable than the gear. If someone finds left gear and returns it, big karma props to them.

kevin neville wrote:As the leaver of booty: If it's stuck and I can't free it, or my second can't free it and I decide not to rap after it, it's booty. If I'm bailing, not planning to reclaim it later, it's booty. If I'm bailing but planning to reclaim, it's not booty; but if someone arrives in the meantime and claims it as booty, I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch fighting them; getting off a rock when I need to get off, wins. As the finder of booty: If it looks like fixed gear that was left because someone couldn't clean it: booty. If it looks like gear that was left by mistake or by bailing, I'm happy to reconnect gear with it's owner; but burden is on the owner to make it clear that gear was left, not the finder to seek out the owner. Posting about left gear is entirely legit. Getting pissy about left gear disappearing is not. Don't leave it unless 'getting off' is more valuable than the gear. If someone finds left gear and returns it, big karma props to them.

Excellent summation!

jarthur wrote:You can have your little rules from some over-the-hill Stonemaster Posing Wannabee, but I propose an additional rule: 5) If I find your punk ass using my gear that you stole off my 5.12/5.13 project (that you obviously stick clipped your way up) placed on your 5.9 project I will beat your ass all over the base of the crag.

dude...it ain't 1978 anymore. i suggest you expand your group of climbing buddies beyond your belay bitch of a girlfriend and her hussies. your incompetence/impotence is so obvious, it is embarrassing beyond even eccentric beliefs...

Please delete this thread before all the noobs think climbers really care about or even talk about this kind of shart. I've lost and I've found. I've kept and given back. My golly! STFU NOOBS!

I just wanted to type noobs! NOOBS!

YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! Say it like Captain Kirk.

MP needs a seperate forum for NOOB discussions about BOOTY rules.

If I leave my veggie steak sandwich on the coffee table for more than 15 minutes can my dog booty that shit? No! He don't want no damn veggie steak.

Greg Berry wrote: Please delete this thread before all the noobs think climbers really care about or even talk about this kind of shart. I've lost and I've found. I've kept and given back. My golly! STFU NOOBS! I just wanted to type noobs! NOOBS! YOU ARE GOING TO DIE! Say it like Captain Kirk. MP needs a seperate forum for NOOB discussions about BOOTY rules. If I leave my veggie steak sandwich on the coffee table for more than 15 minutes can my dog booty that shit? No! He don't want no damn veggie steak.

are you kidding? This whole site is for nOObs. You're an noob, I'm a noob we're all noobs... I'm heading back to rc.com now...

Yeah Greg, sheesh. What the hell else are we gonna talk about? Heck, I don't even climb. I'm a 350 lb shut-in typing in the nude while sipping coffee (just like 75% of you guys)

dmb wrote: If you leave your wallet somewhere accidentally, that's you messing up. I can definitely see keeping a cam that you put a substantial amount of effort into retrieving. I don't have that impression, and I don't get upset when I lose gear. I just think it's poor form to take a $60 cam when you could easily return it to its owner.

Not at all, people are trying to justify HOLLY S#!T $60 bucks!!!!!!
when you are climbing a wall and have 1500+ bucks hanging off of you 60 bucks is a drop in the bucket. I have lost cams and I have found cams. I think its fair to take a cam/othergear left by an unknown party. If I happen to recognize the tape marking of the gear I will gladly return that piece; but The circle of booty always comes around. I still I am OK with finding and taking a piece left on route, I will usually end up using that as a bail piece so it will get passed on to the next party that come along.

You don't need rules to justify keeping other people's gear. If you find some abandoned gear, it is up to you whether you hide it away as fast as possible, or ask around the crag, post online or otherwise try to return it.

Your list of rules says a lot about you. But your use of the phrase "whining little bitch" says all I need to know.

For me, all my gear is disposable. Any that I need to leave for safety reasons is free to all you awesome hardmen who need to have it to feel awesomely hard.

I sure hope that I don't have some black hearted 5.13 spraying internet hard case mop up the crag with me.

jarthur wrote:You can have your little rules from some over-the-hill Stonemaster Posing Wannabee, but I propose an additional rule: 5) If I find your punk ass using my gear that you stole off my 5.12/5.13 project (that you obviously stick clipped your way up) placed on your 5.9 project I will beat your ass all over the base of the crag.

This is the dumbest comment in this thread. Who cares about your quick draws? And...no one cares about your " project", either. And while you're at it, go look up the definition of megalomaniac. Total douche.

The greatest risk of posting something like that is that you run the risk of becoming a new catch-phrase...

like people at the crag yelling down to their second something along the lines of... "You'd better f'in clean that cam or I'm gonna go all jarthur on your ass!!"

Locker wrote:" "You'd better f'in clean that cam or I'm gonna go all jarthur on your ass!!" Never heard the saying. I take it means when jarthur MOUNTS some dude from behind?

5.12/13 bro, I want my draws

The rules huh? Simple:

Treat people the way you want to be treated.

And seriously, do you think Pirates follow rules? WTF, they're pirates. By definition they are robbing. So if you're calling it booty, how arrrrrr there rules, matey?