Extreme Mountaineering or Extreme BS? I think the latter...
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NC Rock Climber wrote:... and Cienski has removed his video from YouTube. I can only hope that this is the beginning for the end of $5.6M being wasted to support Cienski's ego.Brought back for your pleasure. youtube.com/watch?v=0gMkOdf… |
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I had not seen that one. Nick is so deep, caring and brooding. What a man! |
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Jason Todd wrote:This has all the makings of a Will Ferrell movie, a la Talladega Nights.I think you just figured it out. This is all a marketing ploy for a new mountaineering comedy. Ben Stiller will play the evil, super serious competing mountaineer trying to get to the top first for personal gain. |
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I hope he has the number for Rescue Services on speed dial, just in case. |
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Keep piling on the negative comments, we know he's watching and responding. Keep sending emails to under armour. I sent one to their system and they said they forwarded it to the PR dept. One email doesn't make a difference but many do. |
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"Nothing like this has ever been attempted before." |
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mca must be rolling in his grave because of that video. why didnt they just use awolnation and get it over with... |
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It's a walk off. |
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Exploiting the Exploited. |
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John Vanek wrote:Exploiting the Exploited. I'm 54 and like trad, alpine, ice climbing when I can. I love long moderate climbs, and consider myself technically sound with my mountain craft, though I don't climb at a high level. I hope to travel to the Alps some day to fulfill a childhood dream. That sums up my climbing. I am not an expert climber. I am a retired police lieutenant and have been very active in anti-human trafficking efforts since 2006. I have sat on a number of national-level advisory boards, and now consult on human trafficking responses. My clients include the U.S. Department of Justice, United State Attorney's Office, and a variety of non-governmental organizations (NGOs). I am much more of an expert on human trafficking than climbing. Since federal law defined trafficking in 2000, many individuals and organizations have appeared in the anti-trafficking community who do not investigate cases or provide direct services to victims. Some of these organizations and individuals have raised A LOT of money, often because most people don't understand the complexity of human trafficking and the even more complex response to slavery. This lack of knowledge allows, sometimes, for self-promoters to enter the anti-HT space and make money. Money which could otherwise go to directly supporting victims of trafficking, or building the collaborative responses needed to prevent trafficking. Trafficking is an immensely popular topic, and Mission 14 seems to me to be much more about the "mission" than making a dent in trafficking. When a person or an organization uses the plight of slaves, exploited children, or other social issues like poverty to promote their own agenda, we call that exploiting the exploited. Mission 14 is not the first, nor will they be the last. But just going by the description of the plan to ascend all 8,000ers - and if the budget is secured - it will probably be the largest amount of money spent to do "something" to fight HT, with very little direct benefit to the victims. This is shameful. Much could be accomplished in Baltimore and Managua with the funds that will be spent on the expedition. And the amount of money that can be raised by telling the story of Mission 14 is reduced by travel and production fees, and a lot of other costs. So revenue from the story will not equal the lesser amount which will go to the real cause - fighting slavery. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to, hopefully, inform some of you about the growing number of organizations which seem to be supporting causes, when the actual benefit to the cause will be far less than it appears. Mission 14 is getting blasted on MP because we all see the laughable nature of the mission plan and have, at least, an arm-chair appreciation for the risk the Sherpas will make and the impact on a sport we all love. But non-climbers will not see what we see, and many will support Mission 14 due to their limited understanding of the realities of responding to HT. It is very unfortunate that some will exploit others' suffering for a mere athletic expedition. Thanks for reading.John, No objections to a long post that provides a professional perspective. Thank you for peeling back yet another layer of this farcical endeavor. |
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John - that is a valuable and informative perspective. I wonder how UA would respond if you were to write them with that viewpoint? Or if they would even care.... They are probably getting the exposure/advertising they want. This particular exploitation seems even more thinly veiled than most..... |
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Thanks for the supportive replies. |
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Good on you, John. Thank you for your great post. I will look forward to your following posts. I am going to write a few of his sponsors and express my concerns. I think I will also leave a comment on the Mission 14 Facebook page. You phrased it very well; This truly is exploiting the exploited, and I would very much like to see the money that Nick wants to spend on this atrocity of an expedition go directly to kids in need. |
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Apparently he has done Kilimanjaro and the Tough Mudder. Is that all it takes to score a huge sponsorship? #thisisbullshit |
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Has this guy done any of the routes yet, or is this just another F@$king Brotherhood of the Traveling Stopper???!!!! |
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Stich wrote:Has this guy done any of the routes yet, or is this just another F@$king Brotherhood of the Traveling Stopper???!!!!Brotherhood of the traveling sherpa team. |
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This is the follow-up post I promised, regarding my efforts to see if any of my professional anti-trafficking colleagues were aware of Mission 14. The answer is no. |
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Thanks for the follow up John. I am not surprised that folks had not heard of M14 and maybe not so surprised that no one had heard of either the Orphan Network or the Araminta Freedom Initiative. They seem to be small local organizations. So unless someone on the list server was in the Greater Potomac River area they are just one of many such orgs. Which does not mean these organizations are not doing good things. |
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If they were raising money for something like the Red Cross or Crescent, I wouldn't even have a concern, the money goes somewhere to do some good; every expedition is a full out peak baggers ego fest. |
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Kilroywashere! wrote:why didnt they just use awolnation and get it over with...This wins the internet today. |