Better climbing for everone

I have noticed an increase in climbers who think they are better than others in the south and think they can talk shit and talk down to weaker climbers.

An incident for example is recently I saw a group of guys working some trad routes and it was evident that they were having issues being new to placing gear,(sand rock). Which sand rock has become a infestation on the weekends anyway. So these guys were taking a while getting going on the route and this other group began making fun of them for one, taking to long to set up, and two they wanted where they were at. So they thought they could shit talk them out of the area.

Why???

We as climbers are a community that needs to watch out for each other. If you see someone having trouble, doing something unsafe, or even as simple as showing them a more efficient way to rig gear. Help them, don't ridicule them. At least their not only hanging in gyms.

Also, southern climbers, stop being stand offish to other climbers. I have noticed a lot seclusion at different areas where people generally seem disinterested in even being friendly and engage in conversation with other climbers. Climbing is a sport that should bring people of different backgrounds together for one common love, not drive us apart. So, as corny as it sounds, spread the love and lets start lifting each other up and pushing each other to be better climbers, not drive each other away.

And if any of the guys that were in that group reads this message, you know who I am. Shoot me PM anytime and I will be more than happy to go out work with you on proper gear usage and rigging .

Climb safe everyone and lets have a great fall coming up

It ain't my fault you fellas come to our rock. I'm sick of all the outsiders especially the yankees coming in and telling me how you do things where you're from. I don't care! This is the south so you better recognize that us southerners have rights that you out of towner rat racing know it alls don't!

Now I'm gonna go eat some chicken and biscuits, thank you very much!

Tyler Tylerson wrote:It ain't my fault you fellas come to our rock. I'm sick of all the outsiders especially the yankees coming in and telling me how you do things where you're from. I don't care! This is the south so you better recognize that us southerners have rights that you out of towner rat racing know it alls don't! Now I'm gonna go eat some chicken and biscuits, thank you very much!

Queue: "A country boy can survive!"

Part of the problem, clearly, is being at Sandrock on a Saturday. Sample most any other spot in AL last weekend, aside from LRC, and there was probably no more than two parties at any major crag....probably less given the stifling heat and humidity.

With regard to the heckling, as you've seen, it goes on. Friendly heckling is one thing. If you didn't like the other dudes talking smack to the gumbies....well, you have two choices...ignore and move away or confront.

My typical group can come off as standoffish. It's mainly a filter for dealing with BS on any end of the spectrum. Everyone isn't going to get along all the time. The biggest problem with the world is the people in it...we all have to to navigate the best way you know how....

As for me, I'll be climbing at the hottest, most chossy, poison ivy infested, backcountry crag I can find til Fall!

Love it or leave it!

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Hell yeah Bo.

Isolated incident, these kind of douche bags are everywhere. I climb in NC and have never experienced anything like this. Just good ole' climbing.

Jonathan Dull wrote:Isolated incident, these kind of douche bags are everywhere. I climb in NC and have never experienced anything like this. Just good ole' climbing.

Im in NC on the regular. Thumbs up to NC! Stay strong brother! Keep the outsiders out!

Jonathan Dull wrote:Isolated incident, these kind of douche bags are everywhere. I climb in NC and have never experienced anything like this. Just good ole' climbing.

Same. The only place I've ever had a problem in the SE is the Red.

Lets here some stories then. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Southern man better
keep your head
don't forget what your
trad mentor said
Southern gumbie gonna
come at last
now your cracks being
infested fast

I saw beanies
white chalk ticken'
tall brown choss piles
beer butt chicken
Southern man when will you
climb that crack?
Standing 'round just
talkin' smack

There's a route a stone mountain nc that was renamed from the first assent to Yankee Go Home. Ai t that southern hospitality.

Ross Mac wrote: Calm down bro. Im born and raised in the south and im tired of it because of the type of attitude you have right now. There is no Yankees, southerners, west coasters or any of that crap. We are all americans and we all need to realize that. The civil war is over, let it go. Don't take a post trying to bring us all together and turn in to something negative, relax brother. I did this post speaking as a southern climber to other southern climbers. I don't remember ever saying is was from the North.

It doesn't have anything to do with the civil war. Yankees are just different. And I ain't ever call you a ayankee, I just said I'm sick of em!

Y'all just learn to get along now!, ya' hear! Go climb a rock and enjoy the outdoors. If I run into the guys Ross referred to having issues with placing trad. gear, I'm happy to lend a hand and help out. But, should I run into the other group, the "shit-talkers," I'll suggest they get up earlier and then proceed to have a picnic and gang roping session on their intended route. Haters suck, northern or southern. I love that silly ass yum recipe shite, and grits, and chitlins. Good for you, Ross, for speaking out regarding being friendly and hospitable on the rocks.

When I was a noob, I showed up at Sandrock without a partner. I met some experienced climbers who recommended I try a route called "Faith" (?). They were super supportive and I learned immensely from them. After 9 years of cutting my teeth in Colorado, I live in NC now. My experience in the South is that it is a small climbing community full of friendly people. It's a nice respite after having climbed for years in Eldo. I've climbed all over the country now (and in several spots in other countries). I hope that some of the posters in this forum realize that the community down here is fantastic, but there's no guarantee that it will always be that way. Be nice, and people will generally act the same.

Tyler Tylerson wrote: It doesn't have anything to do with the civil war. Yankees are just different. And I ain't ever call you a ayankee, I just said I'm sick of em!

Everything has to do with the Civil War...
Yankees....I think it's a lack of sunshine and BBQ.

Ross Mac wrote:Travel some, get out there. They have their bad eggs just like we do. One of my favorite states is up state NY. Beautiful scenery, awesome climbing, and the people are decent.

NEW YORK CITY!!???!!

Ross, if Tyler T is the Tyler I suspect he is, he gets out....a lot.
He's yanking your chain.

Ross Mac wrote:I'm tired of dumb rednecks in the south that give the rest of us bad reputation. Goes the same for up North.

And, easy with the redneck comments!
...I resemble that remark.

big man, literally.

Br'er Rabbit wrote: NEW YORK CITY!!???!!Ross, if Tyler T is the Tyler I suspect he is, he gets out....a lot. He's yanking your chain.

Truth be told, I've been everywhere man.

Ross Mac wrote:Im done with this post. It was not intended to turn into a north south thing. I made it with good intention to bring us all more together. And as far as the red neck comment goes. Let me be clear, I am a country boy through and through. There is a difference between a country boy and redneck. Br'er Rabbit, I doubt you are in my classification of a redneck. Also, I said up state New York, not NY City. That place is like any other major US city, full of rude ass people. And anything BBQ sounds good to me. Anyway, I am done with how retarded and off topic this post went. It was meant in good heart to bring us together, not pick apart every little thing I say. All I was trying to do was spread a good climbing attitude to everyone. If anyone else has a problem with what I have said. Talk to me about it in person. Ill be at Foster Falls the 12th and 13th. Ill be the 6'8" guy wearing the goofy looking hat. And don't twist this that I am saying in the way of talking crap.

Ross Mac wrote:Im done with this post. It was not intended to turn into a north south thing. I made it with good intention to bring us all more together. And as far as the red neck comment goes. Let me be clear, I am a country boy through and through. There is a difference between a country boy and redneck. Br'er Rabbit, I doubt you are in my classification of a redneck. Also, I said up state New York, not NY City. That place is like any other major US city, full of rude ass people. And anything BBQ sounds good to me. Anyway, I am done with how retarded and off topic this post went. It was meant in good heart to bring us together, not pick apart every little thing I say. All I was trying to do was spread a good climbing attitude to everyone. If anyone else has a problem with what I have said. Talk to me about it in person. Ill be at Foster Falls the 12th and 13th. Ill be the 6'8" guy wearing the goofy looking hat. And don't twist this that I am saying in the way of talking crap.

Whats up Ross. Dont forget to wear the Hawaiian shirt you had on last time I saw you. By the way I got what you where getting at. Good post lets hook up sometime and do some climbing