Estimating vs. Measuring Rap Distances
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For those out there who post rap distances, how are you measuring them? |
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" For those out there who post rap distances, how are you measuring them?" |
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Wtf is this a serious question? Range finders!? Lol how about just estimating with the rope. A 60m rope either reaches or it doesn't why on earth would you need to know the EXACT length. This has to be one of the dumbest questions I have read on here... And that's saying a lot! |
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BSheriden wrote:Wtf is this a serious question? Range finders!? Lol how about just estimating with the rope. A 60m rope either reaches or it doesn't why on earth would you need to know the EXACT length. This has to be one of the dumbest questions I have read on here... And that's saying a lot!I'll take this as option 'd'. :-) |
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I go simply look before I leap. |
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BSheriden wrote:Wtf is this a serious question? Range finders!? Lol how about just estimating with the rope. A 60m rope either reaches or it doesn't why on earth would you need to know the EXACT length. This has to be one of the dumbest questions I have read on here... And that's saying a lot!What about folks that have chopped 10 or 20 feet off their rope? If you just say, "A 60m rope will reach", does that mean a 57m rope will? What about a 55m rope? I don't think more accurate measurements could be anything other than beneficial. Baring actual measurements a comment like, "60m will reach with 20' to spare" should be good enough. |
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Allen Corneau wrote: What about folks that have chopped 10 or 20 feet off their rope? If you just say, "A 60m rope will reach", does that mean a 57m rope will? What about a 55m rope? I don't think more accurate measurements could be anything other than beneficial. Baring actual measurements a comment like, "60m will reach with 20' to spare" should be good enough.No. Few people have an accurate measurement of the amount they chopped off a rope. They didn't have an exact length when new and they didn't know how much they cut. Your idea of precision is silly. Can I get down with a 50, 60, or 70? Everything else is just minutia. |
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1. find the exact middle ... on ropes you dont know do this the old fashioned way |
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BSheriden wrote:Wtf is this a serious question? Range finders!? Lol how about just estimating with the rope. A 60m rope either reaches or it doesn't why on earth would you need to know the EXACT length. This has to be one of the dumbest questions I have read on here... And that's saying a lot!I recall quite a few raps in Potrero Chico where our "60 m" would only get to the next rap station if the heaviest person went to the very end (with knots) and flipped upside down to reach the next anchors. Whoever bolted the routes simply bolted the full length of their rope which was a bit longer than our rope. |
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bearbreeder wrote:3. learn and practice how to reascend a rap+1 |
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One thing that irk's me is how Rap's aren't measured in METERS. Why would you list a rappel in Feet when our ropes are measured in Meters?! Obviously after years of climbing and rappelling we've all learned to guesstimate rap lengths, and convert. But that still irks me. |
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Funny question! |
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My raps are typically 6.342x10^-15 light years, |
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Hi Bill, |
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Funny Question.... |
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Mike Mooney wrote:Hi Bill, I'd like to know distance so I don't go 10 meters past with my 70 m rope.Wouldn't you only go 5 meters past with a 70m rope? I see your point though. |
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I go to Google Earth, drop down to ground view, bring up the sideways view of the crag, then use the line/distance app. |
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Mike Mooney wrote:Hi Bill, I'd like to know distance so I don't go 10 meters past with my 70 m rope.Hi Mike, I'd considered rallying folks to require land owners enforce a 24 +/- 1 meter distance between raps ... or maybe with the longer ropes these days that should be 34 +/-1 meter. But I'm worried its a hostile crowd here. Bill (good to hear from you) |
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s.price wrote: I thought I was the only one who did that. How ya doin Mike?I seem to keep rapping off the end of my rope. Don't know why. How's your whiskey coming along? |
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post should be be retitled "Estimating vs. Measuring DBs on MP". I would have estimated a lot less, but since some of ya'll have left it without question, the measurement will proabably come out a little higher than originally thought. |
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I rely on beta provided in the guide book , or that I collect at the base of the crag by talking to other climbers or eye estimating the route. Lately we have been climbing a lot with 60 m twins which makes it easier to rap a route in general. For longer routes or for routes with a lot of rope eating flakes and or trees it's adviseable to use a single rope rap. I tie an autoblock and a knot at the end of both rope ends to go down first as I scout for rap stations and/or trees. Rope is marked in the middle of course. In case of an "overshot" I ascend the rope using the autoblock for in search of better rap options. |