looking for suggestions: med-sized pack built to handle extra weight- OPINIONS ON MAMMUT/MH BAGS?
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I'd be skeptical if Deuter claims the dimensions of both are the same. The 45L feels longer, but the strap system compresses nicely in both. |
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willeslinger wrote: Seriously, do not pass go, do not collect $20, get the Variant 37L, literally the only pack I've used that would fit the bill for you in an elegant and durable fashionThe Variant probably fits the OP's list the best. However, while the Variant is very well made with a ton of features it is also heavy, bulky, and fiddly. I have a new model Speed 40 that I have been using a lot since last year and it does a lot of things better than the Variant but is not as durable. I have climbed alpine rock and alpine ice with the Speed and it climbs very well. The Speed 30/40 doesn't carry weight very well though and has no provisions for skis (which would shred the sides anyway. Put more than 30lbs in the Speed 30/40 and you're going to feel it. Of all the packs listed in this thread I would look at the Variant, Epic, Speed 30/40, Mammut Trion, or something from CCW. The Deuter looks like a features and benefits checklist REI pack and Cilo has far too many horror stories. FWIW I think a do-it-all pack sucks and just means you get to spend all year with a pack that doesn't do anything well. |
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MH trad pack. Mine does all of those things. Just don't get the black one. |
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I was looking to buy either the Mountain Hardware Directissima 46 or the Trion Guide and ordered the MHW first. |
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Thanks for all of the beta, keep it coming- especially opinions on the mammut bags (or other bags you feel are superior). |
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The Hyperlite Mountain Gear packs have internal stays and padding for right at two pounds. The Ice Pack comes in 2400 (~40 liter) and 3400 cubic inch versions. Kind of pricey, but compared to something like a dyneema pack from Cilogear, they are a steal. My 2400 Ice Pack has carried 35 pounds easily, and it felt fine on my back. The stock crampon attachment bungees could be better, but that is a small criticism. The only feature missing that you requested is a lid. But the new ones do come with a small pocket inside at the top for things like keys, headlamp, whatever. |
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I have the Mammut Trion Guide, as well, and absolutely love this pack. I find it carries weight very well (and I'm no hardman). People claim the Cilogear packs are very comfortable. I have a 70L Worksack and I do not find it very comfortable. I think you need to be a hardman to find Cilo packs comfortable. |
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IanWarrington wrote:One question that I had for the people using the BD speed or gregory alpinisto was how they found the ice tool attachment, especially if you have a longer glacier ax that doesn't have a hole in the head.My buddy has on the newer BD Speed packs and he likes it a lot. Very nice pack as well. The ice tool attachment works very well for technical ice tools, unfortunately I haven't seen him carry a standard, straight-shaft mountaineering ax yet. |
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Arc'teryx NoZone 35. Light, burly, 2 removable stays that will support heavier loads. While not ski specific, skis can be carried a-frame with the compression straps. A small wand pocket works for trekking poles as well. Simplified tool attachment works for traditional, as well as modern "aggressive" ice tools. While on the small side of the volumes, it has a large overflow collar and floating lid. The only drawback when carrying heavier loads is the webbing hip belt. It climbs extremely well and can be stripped down to a bullet style leader pack. So if you have the skrilla, I highly recommend it. |
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I have the Winter 2012 Alpinisto 35L, size medium, and here are my two cents on the tool attachments ( I'm 5'10" and 164 pounds ): |
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Christopher: Thank you so much for your review. When I found the aplinisto in a store last year I was initially impressed with the appearance of the pack. I then was disappointed in the non-removable lid and finally wrote it off due to the tool attachment. People on this thread were so complementary however that I was starting to think that I should reconsider it. If you feel the way you do about the pack using it with the tools it was designed for, then I don't have a desire to drop that sort of coin for a pack that just does just some of the things right. |
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I have a cilogear 45L guide service. Sounds like it might be what your looking for. It's not listed on their website but is a model they sometimes make as a special order. I scored and got in on one. It's a normal 45L worksack with wand pockets on the sides that will hold skis/water bottles, crampon pocket, and a bit more durable material on the bottom. |
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BD Epic 45 |
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Can recommend the Mammut Trion Light (40l) as a good option. I have used it for multi-day hikes, multipitch trad rock and ice routes. The build quality is bomber. Lots of great features too to give it versatility. Removable inside waterproof sack, support frame, hip belt, lid all making it super light. Good straps and compression and even has ski carry option. Can also take overloading in both volume and weight quite well with good load supporting. |
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LIV wrote:+1 for the Mammut Trion Guide. Finally found a women specific which is shorter in the torso length. Go big or go small in it ... Adjustable with lots of features.I bought a Trea Guide 40+7 for a trip to the Tetons. One of the load-lifter buckles broke before I got to the trailhead. Bummed. I also didn't like the fact that the lid is not removable (was going to do surgery on it to fix this). Going to ship it back. If the BD Speed 40 had a back pocket, I'd get it instead. |