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John Maher
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May 10, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2012
· Points: 0
I know it isn't much, but I got caught in the rain Wednesday (May 8) and ended up lowering off a locking carabiner on Madam Butterfly at Farley. It's not there now, and it would be nice to get it back. Thanks.
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sherb
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May 11, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Dec 2012
· Points: 60
I bet the gas + time + effort costs would be more expensive than that one locking carabiner. It got a new life as bail biner. Part of climbing is sometimes you leave biners, sometimes you claim biners. Sometimes you even leave gear for other people to rap down from. I know I've rapped from gear other people fixed, without compensating them. And don't forget some people bolt and spend their time, and money on the bolts without getting expecting it back.
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jake 356
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May 11, 2013
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worcester
· Joined Mar 2012
· Points: 0
Rule #1 of Farley club don't talk about Farley club........ Sorry climbed in ma for ten yrs never met any one that could show me around
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AnthonyM
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May 11, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Mar 2009
· Points: 30
I left a sling in RMNP... Glacier Gorge area... Please get it back to me...
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Eric Hamer
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May 11, 2013
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Tucson
· Joined Jan 2011
· Points: 50
Most of the time I carry 'bail' biners just in case I have to leave them. Consider it gone.
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John Maher
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May 11, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Aug 2012
· Points: 0
Wow. What a fascinating collection of responses in less than 10 hours after posting an innocuous little message. Yes, of course it's gone, but climbers are generally very decent folk and I expected it be sitting at the kiosk of the parking lot. At a minimum I had hoped it was moved up to the top to contribute to the route's anchor and reduce the wear on the quick clips. Hey, but I never would have gotten the pleasure of seeing all these responses. Thanks for sharing.
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Greg Farrell
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May 11, 2013
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Morris, Connecticut
· Joined May 2010
· Points: 20
John you chose to "leave" the biner. If you were that concerned with retaining ownership of it, you should've rapped back in then and there to retrieve it, regardless of the weather. Expecting it to be there when you return is ludicrous. Definitely BOOTY IMNSHO.
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Adam Stackhouse
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May 11, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 13,970
Eric Hamer wrote:Most of the time I carry 'bail' biners just in case I have to leave them. Consider it gone. Always have always will
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Brendan Blanchard
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May 11, 2013
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Oct 2010
· Points: 590
Greg Farrell wrote:IMNSHO. Now THAT is a mouthful for something that's assumed because it's on the internet.
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Lundy Bancroft
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May 13, 2013
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Unknown Hometown
· Joined Sep 2012
· Points: 0
I friend of mine was telling me a few weeks ago that she finds rock climbers cliquey and exclusive (she's a climber herself), and I felt like I really didn't know what she was talking about. But reading this thread I can see her point. It's true that bail biners are generally considered fair booty to collect, but is there some reason why it's necessary to be rude and sarcastic with a newer climber who isn't familiar with that tradition? Let's be a welcoming crew and just explain what needs to be explained without putting people down. Plus, he does have a point about the wear on anchors, and that a found biner in good shape could be contributed back to the crag (unless you have the luxury of climbing in a place where every anchor has quick clips and they're all in good shape - I'm not so lucky).
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chuffnugget
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May 13, 2013
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Bolder, CO
· Joined Sep 2011
· Points: 0
I think I heard your biner is with Locker's black lighter.
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