BLM/Castle Rocks climbing closure
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The Burley Field Office of the BLM is moving forward with the long anticipated process for closing its lands adjacent to the State Park to pretty much all climbing activity. It has published its amended management plan and proposed record of decision and will accept public comment for a limited time. |
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Thanks for the head's up! |
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Andrew Carson wrote:While Massacre Rocks is not mentioned in the latest announcement, it is generally understood that climbing closures on BLM lands in that area are in our future.It my understanding that the "Cedar Fields" area contains at least some of the climbing area at Massacre Rocks. Some fine comments here: seiclimbing.com/wp-content/… |
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Reclamation Announces Temporary Closure of Project Lands to Public Use Downstream of American Falls Dam |
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Can someone tell me which specific "natural and cultural resources" are at risk? I've only climbed within the state park so I'm not familiar with what resources are being harmed. Thanks. |
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Is there an avenue for contacting officials regarding this? I feel like we did this last year as well to curb any more potential closures, but another year and another judicial hearing has changed that I guess? |
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Doug Lintz wrote:Can someone tell me which specific "natural and cultural resources" are at risk? I've only climbed within the state park so I'm not familiar with what resources are being harmed. Thanks.I'm just guessing, but, based on the number of archeological surveys done, there must be "significant culteral resources" or the potential for such. SHPO. Probably want to set it aside and get around to it when they can. Not sure they've done the EA they need to justify the closure. My bet is they don't have the manpower to figure out just what they got, so, its easy to see climbing, especially bouldering (ala the Taco Cave as an example) as a risk to the culteral resources that "may" be around. Shallow rock overhangs and the like have got to be the key feature on the radar methinks... Kind of a sucky situation for all of us, IDPR folks included. My bet is they don't want to enforce the BLM closure and aren't staffed to edjucate, sign for or patrol it anyhow. Its such a small parcel wedged in behind the main Castle Rock area between IDPR land and the Forest Service. And, as kind of a bummer for them, they put in some nice signs and trails through the BLM area too. Part of the loop trail that goes around the backside via Stines Creek/Almo Creek. There's a bunch of formations on the BLM parcel that have established routes and have had for since before the park opened to the public. Its a nice, quiet, off-the-radar place to climb. I think they still have active livestock grazing permits on that BLM parcel too...ugh. |
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I read the BLM's recently released final report and it's clear they are moving forward with their preferred alternative - no climbing or trail development. |
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I would really be interested in following up with this as we frequent the Castle Rocks area quite a bit. I looked on the AF and AAC websites for any information about this but couldn't find anything. Does anyone have any other contacts where I might get more information about the situation and how we can help? Thanks! |
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There we go, Access Fund! |
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Right on Access Fund... and thanks Brian! |
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Great job Access Fund. We should all do our part by sending the e-mail that Access Fund recommends. |
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Idaho Mountain Festival |
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I was one of the original commenters and received the documents from the BLM on their proposed closure. Their whole plan is big on closures to the taxpaying public and small on any form of credible science. The basis for the closure is that climbers MAY erode the dirt, exposing arrow heads that would then be picked up and the "data" from that would then be forever lost. How are these any areas that would be subject to this loss of alleged data any different from anywhere else in the United States. That aspect is not addressed in the BLM's "science". This really appears to be someone with a political agenda using their government position to further their cause. The local climbing community should complain directly to their US Senators and Representatives. Agencies tend to pay a lot of attention to letters to elected officials. |
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dano-colorado wrote:Idaho Mountain Festival FYI: With all the drama about the BLM portion of Castle Rocks, we want you to be assured that this does not affect the State owned portion of Castle Rocks. The State of Idaho owns and manages all the land and rocks that we all use whenever we go there. This means that the festival is in no way affected with closure. With that being said, let's still fight to open up access to the other great potential that the area has to offer. There is no reason why climbers should be singled out when hikers, hunters, and ranchers can still use the land.Just as clarification, the state of Idaho does NOT own and manage all the land and rocks that we use when we go there. Not the BLM portion, and, not the Forest Service portion. We're not fighting to open up access that we've never had. There's long established climbing routes on both the BLM and Forest Services lands adjacent to the IDPR property. That potential has been realized for many years. This puts the IDPR in a bad spot, right in the middle of this. Nearly all access (certainly the "reasonable" access) to the BLM and FS parcels is through IDPR managed and maintained roads, gates and trails. I can't imagine they want to "manage" the closure of the BLM parcel. As such, it pretty much directly effects the IDPR. Is the festival going to be liable for folks who stray onto the BLM property and climb? I think you got a dog in this hunt...we all do. |
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Brian in SLC wrote:....There's long established climbing routes on both the BLM and Forest Services lands adjacent to the IDPR property. That potential has been realized for many years..... I think you got a dog in this hunt...we all do.I'm NOT saying we shouldn't fight for our rights, but am I the only one thinking that this 400 acre closure effects a bunch of sage brush and 20 foot boulders not worth hiking to? Seriously can anyone post a map of the area that was closed? |
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please look at bigger picture blm is trying to close areas all over the west christmas tree pass, massacre rocks is worth makeing a stand, hobbit wall is super cool,blm controls a large acerage in the west, especially land that is super ariable, sage & cactus country,lotsa rock in there! |
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dan zika wrote:please look at bigger picture blm is trying to close areas all over the west christmas tree pass, massacre rocks is worth makeing a stand, hobbit wall is super cool,blm controls a large acerage in the west, especially land that is super ariable, sage & cactus country,lotsa rock in there! Not so long ago castle rocks was off limintsI totally agree. Massacre is taking a huge hit, yet no press. Whats up? |
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Tzilla Rapdrilla wrote:I was one of the original commenters and received the documents from the BLM on their proposed closure. Their whole plan is big on closures to the taxpaying public and small on any form of credible science. The basis for the closure is that climbers MAY erode the dirt, exposing arrow heads that would then be picked up and the "data" from that would then be forever lost. How are these any areas that would be subject to this loss of alleged data any different from anywhere else in the United States. That aspect is not addressed in the BLM's "science". This really appears to be someone with a political agenda using their government position to further their cause. The local climbing community should complain directly to their US Senators and Representatives. Agencies tend to pay a lot of attention to letters to elected officials.What Tod said. Behind this bullshit are some elitist 'experts', probably aligned with a university nearby. These fuckers mole into policy-consulting roles and then implement their plan which has a foundational belief that the public is nothing more than baboons and need to be well-regulated (statism). Tod knows how government operates, I say we all need to get fired up here and blast out messages en-masse. This sort of crap is only going to get worse; and just wait for the sequestration excuse for coming closures. Can a local post-up who to target? |
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From the trail map issued by the IDPR: |
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WOW, that's a lot of closed rock! There are a lot of routes I want to climb still. I've already written my emails last night. What else can I do? How about a good ol' fashion sit in? Tell me who's address to camp out at and I will move in and set up shop right on their front sidewalk. |