Climbing on Acid

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Uh-huh... But what I still struggle to see is how the flavor of the art relates. Reminds me of other things. A little less geometric than most of Alex Grey's other work, but clearly somewhat similar in inspiration.
The prominence of the orange vs violet and chartreuse...
So I wonder how much of what went into that. I thnk Alex had a lot of different inspirations over time, and I am not sure how much of each informs his artistic style. In the context of the question posted "does that represent..." I was trying to take a swing at that question.

Now if one is to suppose that the 'general culture' sprung from that moment, then it seems to make more sense.

I started climbing after a mushroom trip... during which I 4th classed some gnarly stuff in the Valley of Fire.

Tony B wrote:^^^ Uh-huh... But what I still struggle to see is how the flavor of the art relates. Reminds me of other things. A little less geometric than most of Alex Grey's other work, but clearly somewhat similar in inspiration. The prominence of the orange vs violet and chartreuse... So I wonder how much of what went into that. I thnk Alex had a lot of different inspirations over time, and I am not sure how much of each informs his artistic style. In the context of the question posted "does that represent..." I was trying to take a swing at that question. Now if one is to suppose that the 'general culture' sprung from that moment, then it seems to make more sense.

It seems to me the image is perhaps informed by the experience but not necessarily representative of it. Hofmann is seemingly not even looking at the molecule, but past it. This suggests a disconnect between the creator and his creation, perhaps not unlike Frankenstein and his monster, or Kronos and Zeus.

I think your "general culture" interpretation (if I'm understanding it correctly) is on to something. The image seems to want to communicate more of the cultural/psycho-spiritual icons associated with the experience, while still conveying in broadstroke the essential psychedelic nature of the drug.

Dig the third eye, too

PostPost: I remember reading somewhere that Hofmann met Owsley (or maybe Kesey?) and was shocked at how much LSD he was ingesting/manufacturing per dose. It was like 1,000 times what Hofmann considered an effective dose.

Wouldn't personally recommend climbing anything really challenging on acid, though it has been done as many people here can attest. Psychedelics remove the filter from your brain's senses, and really open up the mind to other sensations, realities, ways of thinking, etc. Because climbing requires such intense focus, I wouldn't want to subject my brain on acid to having to focus on and worry about gear, my safety, or my partner's safety.

Bouldering is a different story though. Very fun to hike and boulder in that state.

So, Locker, I must ask: is it the acid or the edibles that disable your control on your caps lock?

Or is it the gloo?

Clifton Santiago wrote: Wow, Skat, that's a grip of acid to drop at one time. I don't think you're all that scattered, though. Just breathe a bit, and try to walk the razor's edge of moderation, in all things. Sometimes trying to post up for positive feedback online gets jumbled and static-y, like it's not really YOU that's coming through, so it's not even worth the effort, y'know? Remember that almost everyone here is trying to slam something for some reason so that somebody quotes it and gets +1 bullshit. You don't need that, don't give the gapers the satisfaction. Be well, and if you're gonna be "trolling", don't mention it here, unless you got some :)

Basically I live life in 3rd person (Depersonalization/Derealization/Disassociation)and I jumped in and out of reality so much that the two sort of blended in together in many ways. Every time I was coming off of acid I felt like the old me was dead and a new me was born. This went on trip after trip until I did a massive trip which landed me in the ER for a night screaming. I kind of laugh about it now. When I got out of the ER the following morning, I never came fully down, while there I promised God I would never use agin - which I broke as soon as I got home, and only copious amounts of benzos help bring me down from that trip (by maybe 80%). Over 12 years later, I'm still tripping - in my sleep, when I'm awake, etc. 24/7. The old me died in the hospital and a new me that's irreversible walked out that morning. My life has been a blur since! Really, I just want a good woman, to climb strong, and to get off this earth.

Max Supertramp wrote: Or is it the gloo?

It's breathing the glue man! .... the colors...

I climbed Monkeyfinger in Zion a few years ago and some jackass (likely tripping) had chiseled "LSD" (and maybe a pot leaf around it?) into the varnish at the fully hanging stance at P4. Besides being a danger to yourself and those around you, you do stupid things that jeopardize access for everyone. Not cool.

Skat B wrote: Basically I live life in 3rd person (Depersonalization/Derealization/Disassociation)and I jumped in and out of reality so much that the two sort of blended in together in many ways. Every time I was coming off of acid I felt like the old me was dead and a new me was born. This went on trip after trip until I did a massive trip which landed me in the ER for a night screaming. I kind of laugh about it now. When I got out of the ER the following morning, I never came fully down, while there I promised God I would never use agin - which I broke as soon as I got home, and only copious amounts of benzos help bring me down from that trip (by maybe 80%). Over 12 years later, I'm still tripping - in my sleep, when I'm awake, etc. 24/7. The old me died in the hospital and a new me that's irreversible walked out that morning. My life has been a blur since! Really, I just want a good woman, to climb strong, and to get off this earth.

Skat,
I got dented once myself, nothing like what you're describing, but I was gonzos for about 2 weeks. Less so for a couple months, and after a year or so I didn't notice it unless I smoked certain strains of sativa. Then I needed a dark closet, warm wet towel, and copious amounts of booze. Now I run a semi-successful business and post on the internet about the climbing I used to do (heh-heh).

Sorry for you troubles bro, but maybe rein it in a little? You have an onomatopoeic brilliance and an obvious yen to express yourself- there must be better venues for that than MP, right? (pearls before swine and whatnot)

We all want a deese chick, a proud send, and a personal relationship with some shit that transcends our shitty little existence. None were found on the internet, at least that I know of :) Be well, brutha!

haw haw haw. Dood, so I have a re-sole question for you. I have a wonderfully well-used pair of Scarpa Dharma pros. The wear has not made it through the rand. However, the leather upper bits have had their stitching abraded away in several places. Is it worth my while to send these great (now discontinued) shoes to a re-soler to get them re-soled and stitched back into shape, or should I just cut my losses?

on acid.

David Sahalie wrote: LSD is a fun ride, but the DMT is what really put things in perspective for me, in a good way.

Ever Spirit-Flipped?
OF course, that is a rhetorical question.

Since I, of course, have never taken a single drug ;), I will recount a story that happened to my cat.

Back when my cat used to skateboard a lot (and eat a lot of drugs), he discovered that a hit or three of acid made him skate about 2 months better. Even though my cat felt less focused, it was like the acid helped him get out of his own way and reach his maximum potential. It was as if my cat was more in the flow of things...everything felt smoother and easier, almost like dancing.

I imagine it would be the same for climbing, but trusting acid-placed pro might be worrysome.

Anyway, I've always thought that the climbing itself would be awesome, but the best way to do it (for safety's sake) is to trip while your partner is sober and sets topropes and does all the belaying for the day. The next day your partner gets to trip while you belay/set anchors sober. Safe, fun, what's not to love? (except that you don't get to lead)

Funniest cat story I ever heard Jesse!
Had a little spittle come out laughing at your "cat ate a lot of drugs" part.
Thnx 4 d chuck L

Clifton Santiago wrote: Skat, I got dented once myself, nothing like what you're describing, but I was gonzos for about 2 weeks. Less so for a couple months, and after a year or so I didn't notice it unless I smoked certain strains of sativa. Then I needed a dark closet, warm wet towel, and copious amounts of booze. Now I run a semi-successful business and post on the internet about the climbing I used to do (heh-heh). Sorry for you troubles bro, but maybe rein it in a little? You have an onomatopoeic brilliance and an obvious yen to express yourself- there must be better venues for that than MP, right? (pearls before swine and whatnot) We all want a deese chick, a proud send, and a personal relationship with some shit that transcends our shitty little existence. None were found on the internet, at least that I know of :) Be well, brutha!

LSD is as unique as each person. I had a schizophrenic friend who got zero visuals from taking acid and also used to work with a guy that couldn't talk for 2 weeks after his trip. It's crazy how different it affects everyone! I have also smoked the hell out of salvia and it is its own thing - I can't compare it to other hallucinogens. A reoccurring theme in my salvia trips was that I usually turned into a push room, paintbrush , or a toothbrush. Not only was I a brush but also something was pushing me against something - a canvas, floor, etc. It was that 80X stuff that they sold or used to sell in smoke shops and the Internet. Oh yeah, and never drop acid at work cuz you'll drink all of the orange juice out of the vending machine and your boss will grow horns while he's bitching you out over something that doesn't exist in your world but it does in his.

Well, this is how the world works: All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him!

Locker wrote:If you haven't been foolish enough to try it yet. If you get the strongest "Salvia" available and take one hell of a HUGE fucking hit, I guarantee you're going somewhere you've never been before. Real GOOD chance you'll never want to go back either. That shit, is SHIT and can send you way the fuck out there. NOT that I would know.

There is a huge difference between salvia, shrooms, and LSD. I still never got to try mescaline though, besides eating those weak San Pedro cacti. I'll offer a cam for a good mescaline trip!

But, yeah, about Salvia. I was coming down from salvia when I took that 45-50ft fall and decked. They had to crank up the morphine all the way up cuz it just wasn't binding well to my opioid receptors (I think salvia binds tho). Which reminds me.....

youtu.be/rRaDrYci3OE

Next week: B.A.S.E. "squirrel suit" jumping on heroin

Skat B wrote: LSD is as unique as each person. I had a schizophrenic friend who got zero visuals from taking acid and also used to work with a guy that couldn't talk for 2 weeks after his trip. It's crazy how different it affects everyone! I have also smoked the hell out of salvia and it is its own thing - I can't compare it to other hallucinogens. A reoccurring theme in my salvia trips was that I usually turned into a push room, paintbrush , or a toothbrush. Not only was I a brush but also something was pushing me against something - a canvas, floor, etc. It was that 80X stuff that they sold or used to sell in smoke shops and the Internet. Oh yeah, and never drop acid at work cuz you'll drink all of the orange juice out of the vending machine and your boss will grow horns while he's bitching you out over something that doesn't exist in your world but it does in his. Well, this is how the world works: All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him!

Werd! I guess you're gonna take it at your own pace.
Shine on, you crazy diamond, I'm out

Not sure how we ended up on Salvia here, but climbing on that isn't going to be very likely at all, even if you wanted to try. It is highly unlikely that on much of a dose at all you are going to be anywhere near what most people would call conscious. I'm not convinced it would be all bad like Locker implies, but when you come to, you might not know your name, recognize where you are, or be able to feel your body for a while... so if you chose to do that, be sure you are with good friends.

Help a old guy out and explain what salvia is? I clearly know what sativa is but salvia is that the stupid shit Miley Cirus got caught smoking.

Like is it the same thing as bath salts or something. If so what the hell are bath salts? I am so outa touch thank god;) I watched a movie yesterday and the kids got high on the regular using cleaning stuff from under the kitchen sink "nasty". Sure i did it once or twice as kid but we had real drugs to do and they where really really good. Hard to believe so much has changed since just the 90's!!!

I almost feel bad for kids these days. So what is Salvia?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvi…

is this the thread about Alex Gray? Far out man!