Dear Arizona...........
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Next time you're in the Stronghold, look for the odd agave / yucca / sotol / ocotillo / mesquite / manzanita / cholla / catclaw that's been trimmed. That's a clue as to where the trail goes. |
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so many people on this site make me think twice about wanting to move to Colorado...buncha weenies! |
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OK. Some have listed valid issues that justify why the trails are a bit hard to follow. I get it. Others have proven that assclowns have migrated south. |
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Where, specifically, did you have issues? |
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Mac, you want a trail to the Mtn? |
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Haha, very nice Jefe! I think you did get me a bit wrong.. it was late August, you know how them desert bushes get here in Preskitt. Once them rains hit 'em they don't stop growin'. SO I re-state again,"...Being it was the beginning of the season the climber's trail was almost non-existent and covered by overgrown bushes and fallen debris..." |
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I like the part where the OP thought us assclowns were going to invite him and his clippers to come down and "build" us some trails. HA! |
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Welcome to the club, I've gotten lost all over Arizona. Often in the Stronghold, usually not alone. |
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manuel rangel wrote:Welcome to the club, I've gotten lost all over Arizona. Often in the Stronghold, usually not alone. Interested too about which approach got.you.I remember about 10-15 years ago on X-mas day wandering around looking for who knows what and stumbling upon Bee line. What a gift that was! |
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I will see your "your trails blow" argument and raise you a sixty foot long stone staircase located in a sport crag where a few miles of mandatory 4wd is followed by an hour of hiking for bolted routes. |
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K-Tanz wrote:I will see your "your trails blow" argument and raise you a sixty foot long stone staircase located in a sport crag where a few miles of mandatory 4wd is followed by an hour of hiking for bolted routes.More like twenty minutes to reach these stairs. |
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I am still looking for the coffee shop "LeBuzz" could someone cairn that for me. Please. I missed this one but getting to it now I must say it has been a fun read. |
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1Eric Rhicard wrote:I am still looking for the coffee shop "LeBuzz" could someone cairn that for me. Please. I missed this one but getting to it now I must say it has been a fun read.Just put on some lycra bike shorts, skin tight shirt and some shoes that will clamp you onto some pedals... They will draw you to Le Buzz!! That said, they do have good coffee... |
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Todd W. B. wrote:Build and maintain some f&^%*ing trails to popular crags and cliffs!!! When you have a well-established and used path to follow people don't have to stomp all over the place on fragile soil and vegetation wondering where the hell the trail is. Your rock is awesome and I will certainly continue to visit but after many trips(mainly in and around the many crags in Tucson and in the Stronghold) I simply can't believe that trails are virtually non-existent to the most popular crags! I sometimes feel like we're the first visitors there until we reach the base! Are you trying to preserve the awesomeness and bloodshed level of discovering the cliff and dealing with shindaggers on the very first approach? Are there no locals that maintain the trails? I personally spend many hours each season with a shovel and clippers so don't EVEN try to call me out with that BS. Friends don't let friends build cairns instead of trails!Let it be known that AZ doesn't like trail maintenance and they think that infrastructure is for sissies. Being a man means being boastful, seclusive, and territorial. Keep your mouth shut or we might label you an immigrant and "detain" you indefinitely. It's the wild West out here son, if you don't like it, you can git the fUUK out! |
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Here are three (3) fairly recent (2/5/13) newspaper articles, sent to me by Albert Newman, about two (2) mountain bikers and a hiker who built or improved trails in the Coconino National Forest. |
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If you haven't biffed it into a prickly pear after sliding down a crumbling hillside, gotten a shindagger massage, or had agave(s) impaled into various bodyparts, you haven't really experienced all that SOAZ climbing has to offer! Or maybe you're just far less clumsy than me. But a little bramble S&M is par for the course in these parts, so stay away if that's not how you roll. |
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Another interesting story about Sedona trail building, sent to me by Albert Newman. I think there may be a lesson here: |
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Hey Todd, |