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any help with my pride?

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Dan W. · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5

On 2/10 I was out climbing in sand stone quarry. I was able to get in a few proud 11 red point leads but on the hike out we decided to do...
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Friction face panty waist.... Wow I got my ass kicked. Guess I need to learn slab. Any way it got way too late and way too cold, I was being a little girl and bailed. I left a bail Binner and three brand spanking new drawls.... Ugh so sad. I know this is a crazy long shot but if any one grabs them I'll happily Reimburse you for your troublea and mailing cost.

Rob Dillon · · Tamarisk Clearing · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 760

Dunno 'bout you, but lotsa little girls can climb circles around me so before you go insulting half the population of the planet begging for your bail gear back you might consider the effect of your language.

Ian Stewart · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 155

Why did you have to leave the 3 draws?

I don't think there are many little girls on this site. You should be fine...

John Keller · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2001 · Points: 5

Yeah, the little kids (girls and boys) in Boulder lead 5.13 (face, slab and crack).

Dan W. · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5

Haha, I'm sorry yes many girls can climb better then me. In fact a girl lead this route so beautifully. I was like eh, 5.8 what ever, I'll do it with my eyes closed. Karma got me and I chocked, no clue but my head just want in it. It's crazy how the human mind works. Anyway, the three draws are.... Two at the anchor and one on the last bolt. My partner (she) lead it, pulled the rope, then I went to clean it.... And then.... Ya well well all have our low moments. We had a 7 drive ahead of us that night and I just lost all motivation.

Tony B · · Around Boulder, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 24,665
Rob Dillon wrote:Dunno 'bout you, but lotsa little girls can climb circles around me so before you go insulting half the population of the planet begging for your bail gear back you might consider the effect of your language.
Language gets much (if not most) of its power by the infrequency of it's use and the way that the people who react to it, react to it.
Dan W. · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5

PS, thanks Brassmonkey.

Rob Dillon · · Tamarisk Clearing · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 760

"Pussying out" is a figure of speech. "Towelhead" is a figure of speech. Et cetera. Does this mean that they're OK, just because we have a name for common phrases?

My panties aren't in a bunch, and rest assured I am not butthurt, but this stuff not only has an effect on people who hear it, but on their opinion of the speaker. So we all could perhaps consider how we want to be seen, even if oblivious to our effects on others.

Andy Hansen · · Longmont, CO · Joined Sep 2009 · Points: 3,130

Face it man, you suck at slab climbing. I do too. Set your pride aside and work on your weaknesses for a bit and then come back to it. Hope you get your draws back.

Ian Stewart · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2010 · Points: 155
Rob Dillon wrote:"Pussying out" is a figure of speech. "Towelhead" is a figure of speech. Et cetera. Does this mean that they're OK, just because we have a name for common phrases?
"Towelhead" falls into the racial slur category more than being considered a figure of speech. Comparing "like a little girl" to "towelhead" is quite the stretch.
Ben Brotelho · · Albany, NY · Joined May 2011 · Points: 520

you're not alone, slabs always scare the shit out of me...I just picture my skin in a pile akin to grated parm at the ground. Slabs generally equal little or no gear, which still gets my goat

Rob Dillon · · Tamarisk Clearing · Joined Mar 2002 · Points: 760

All of you are welcome to the phrase 'cried like Rob Dillon on a Cashiers Valley watergroove' if you like. Slabs are scary.

Dan W. · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5

HAHAHAH @Ben Brotelho this is all i can think about when climbing slab...

Cheeeeeessssseeeee

Dan W. · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jan 2009 · Points: 5

@Andy Hansen Totally man! I suck at slab... Maybe i should have just posted this in the free gear thread. HAHAH

Woodchuck ATC · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 3,280

Know how you feel..I hate slab, totally avoid it at all costs.

J Q · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 50
Ddub979 wrote:Any way it got way too late and way too cold, I was being a little girl and bailed. I left a bail Binner and three brand spanking new drawls.... Ugh so sad.t.
Are you sad that you were humbled or sad because you realize that you left a ton of gear unnecessarily? The constant leaving and taking of bail biners happens all the time, it is not a huge problem, think of it as a cheap lesson about your mental, physical, and technical limits. Shit, leave two of those suckers just to be safe, but don't miss the point of the thread, you don't need to leave three brand new draws on any single pitch climb because it got too cold. I am sure the next party appreciated it though, so consider this a lesson in gear intelligence instead of humility. Climbing either is humility or a soon departure, especially slab.
John D · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 10

this kinda reminds me of the time that my buddy and I stopped in moab to climb and get a break from being in the car since we were on the way to texas from yosemite. It was monday morning and when we pulled up to the crag, we saw a 5.8 slabby route with 2 draws hanging at the anchors. Our theory was it was the end of the day, and people (possibly gumbies) had been top roping the climb and pulled the rope without cleaning the anchor. The draws were shiny and new and way nicer than any draw on either of our racks.

We immediately knew which climb we were doing first :) I still have my draw and smile when I clip it. We all contribute and collect booty, work on your footwork and slab technique; and smile that you have contributed positively to the booty pool, it'll come back around to you in time.

grog m · · Saltlakecity · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 70

John D: "We immediately knew which climb we were doing first :) I still have my draw and smile when I clip it."

That is incredibly bad climbing ethics. Furthermore, it is very bad/dangerous karma to climb on stolen climbing equipment. If you didn't earn it in a responsible/honest manner then you should think twice about clipping into that sucker. 'what goes around, comes around'

Mikey Seaman · · Boise, ID · Joined Sep 2010 · Points: 5

I disagree. What goes around comes around indeed. Sometimes you leave gear, sometimes you find gear. If you bail on gear, it's gone. And I wouldn't consider it stolen nor bad ethics to take it. Now, bad ethics to choose a route based on bootying gear?? Meh, no comment. But I'd grab it if I saw it.

John D · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2010 · Points: 10

It's bad ethics to find gear abandoned at the top of a climb and take it? I'd say leaving it is almost littering.

We would have climbed the route anyways, and if the owner had showed up while we were there, or had left a note at the parking area, I probably would have left the draws. As it was, we showed up to an empty crag, saw 2 draws at the top of a route, and cleaned them, how is that bad karma? Nobody ever showed up to the crag while we were there (which was several hours in the middle of the day)

jellybean · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2013 · Points: 0

Greg,"If you didn't earn it in a responsible/honest manner" did.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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