Supplement C4's with?
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I have doubles of C4's, On occasion I wish I had triples of 1,2,3. |
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metolius. |
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Really, anything would work, and would help fill in the gas between BD sizes. Metolius and Wild Country are both poular options. |
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A set of Metolius powercams if you are on a budget. |
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WC friends fall pretty perfectly between C4 sizes. I.E. a #3 friend fits perfectly where a #2 camalot is way tipped out and a #3 camalot won't quite fit yet. |
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In those sizes I had quads before I got anything else. Even then I bought Trango 7's & an 8 mostly to save a couple of bucks. The Trango 7 is slighty bigger than a #2 C4 so if you are in doubt of which one (#2 or #3 camalot) to grab the Trango will usually work. The Trango 8 is completely eclipsed by a #3 C4 so there's no point in having it other than to save money. You can't go wrong with C4's in those sizes, if you decide to get rid of them you can sell them immediately here, or on e-bay, for almost what you pay for them. |
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The metolius MasterCams get a little floppy in the larger sizes and don't get bigger than a bd #2. I have a #2 and #1 link cams and they obviously cover tons and tons of ranges. The biggest is only as big as a #2 but I find they fin in nicely. |
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I have a full set of C4s and Metolius Ultralight Power cams 5-8. They fit perfectly as follows: |
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Alien's, Helium's, fat cams |
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Thanks for the advice guys. |
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I may be wrong here, but I thought red metolious fell between .5 and .75 BD, black metolius between .75 and #1 BD, and I thought green metolious is slightly bigger than a #1 BD. |
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For the gaps in the mid-large sizes, I like tech friends. Sizes 1.5/2/2.5/3) are good to fill gray areas in camalot sizes (I would skip on the #1 which is basically identical to an orange metolius, as well as the 3.5/4 which overlap completely with the blue and grey camalots). If you were asking about camalots (before c4) I would recommend the #4 friend to fill the gap between the #3 and #4 unless you can find a #3.5 (grey) camalot (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT). This is just my biased opinion, metolius powercams have also been good fillers in my experience and they may be easier to find. |
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whatever you want ... at that size it doesnt really matter too much ;) |
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whatever you do just buy lots of them... |
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I carry a gold OP link cam in addition to a single or double rack of BD C4s if I'm on a climb where I might need to double or triple up on hand sized pieces. I've found that at least for me I rarely need to do more than supplement a single rack of cams with select doubles for most routes or doubles with an extra triple or two. The link cam covers a range of .75-2, so I feel that I save weight by only having to haul 1 cam that I may use instead of three of which at least 2 will probably be on my harness by the top of the climb. Granted the crags in my area usually lack sustained splitter cracks so my rack preference may just be a function of local geology. |
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There's an emerging opinion that Totem cams are the best cams on the market. Do a little searching and you'll find lots of opinions, including on this site. |
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are the totum basics on a par with the mastercams? |
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just wait for X4's to come out |
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mcp wrote:are the totum basics on a par with the mastercams?No, they blow the master cams out of the water. |
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I've always been a fan of the WC. Just in between ranges with a smaller head for more shallow placements. I have the red and gold and love em. |
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More C4s for larger sizes, Wild Country for the really large sizes, Aliens and c3s for smaller sizes... and probably the x4 when it comes out. |