Maclntyre Mountains in February
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Hey guys looking for some local intel on a trail. I am going to the Loj for week to do some climbing. Go to the Whites every winter but first time in ADK. Half of the group are not climbers and want to do a big hike one day. We have a tough group of hikers with plenty of winter experience. We are looking at going from the Loj, up the valley to Lake Colden, then take the trail up to Boundary Peak, hitting Algonquin and Wright on the way back. I assume by its location to the Loj that the trail from Algonquin down to the Loj should be pretty hammered down, but I am wondering how well traveled the trail up from Lake Colden is in February. Thanks for the help. |
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The Macs are a ridge of 4 peaks. Wright, Algonquin, Iroquois and Marshall. The trail up from Lake Colden is between Algonquin and Iroquois (and Boundary is between Iroquois and the trail). There is no maintained path between the junction and Iroquois. |
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Seems a bit ambitious for one day -- depending especially on the amount of fresh snow at the time. Are your priorities the lake or certain peaks? Maybe consider heading straight toward Algonquin first. Depending on how fast you're moving, you can do Wright or skip it in the name of time. Hit Algonquin, then you have several choices: a) turn back if it's been a really slow day (maybe go to Wright if you skipped it), b) go on to Boundary, with the option of Iroquois, c) head to Lake Colden. As I understand it, at any point before Lake Colden you could have the option of turning back the way you came, though you'd have to go back up Algonquin first. (Edit: Post #13 at the link above suggests the same kind of thing and estimates some times.) I say bring your camping gear and do them all. |
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P.S. Wouldn't it be a shame to go near Colden and skip the Trap Dike? :-P |
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Adam Thomas wrote:P.S. Wouldn't it be a shame to go near Colden and skip the Trap Dike? :-PHe said they are hikers, not climbers. Burd - that is a long loop. You need to be more than tough to bang that out in a day - you need to be fast. If running in snowshoes and hiking after dark aren't your bag, maybe skip Iroquois/Boundary. Just getting Algonquin in February is a pretty solid day if things are deep. If the trails are very well-packed and you can use trail runners and microspikes and leave the snowshoes on the packs, go ahead and try for the whole thing. Just be ready to skip Wright on the way out if you're running behind. I like the direction you chose. It's longer and harder, but makes a much better hike. The trail up from Lake Colden is steep and relentless, but the views of Avalanche Pass are worth the detour. Also, remember - this loop has a ton of time above treeline. You don't need an ice axe, but if you're not all familiar with crampon use and dealing with mountain weather, avoid this unless the weather is perfect. The Daks in the winter are not like hiking in PA in winter. |
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Oh, right on. Sorry, ice on the brain. |
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Adam Thomas wrote:He/she did say they go to the Whites.Ah, good note. Yeah, nothing different/harder than the Whites here. It's just better. ;-) |
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Couple notes, first if you don't mind the spoiler I made a video of my last Algonquin --> Iroquios hike with a few close friends this past winter. IMO the hiking above treeline on the ridge is the best in the high peaks. Haystack is also a great rocky walk, as well as the south (often icy) side of Marcy. |
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Thanks for this good information guys. Esp about how long this will take to do the whole loop. The info on the Boundary Trail is exactly what I was looking for. I was afraid it might be a slug-fest to the top on that trail. While I have my tour-guides, is Pitchoff Mtn fairley easy access for climbing on the 2nd day? Someone mentioned Trap Dike. I don't see it on the map. Is that near Lake Colden? |
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Pitchoff is a MUCH easier day. The Trap Dike is an off-trail, semi-technical ascent of Mt Colden from Avalanche Lake. It is prone to avalanches and fatal tumbles. Some ice climbing experience is highly recommended. |
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Kevin Heckeler wrote:Algonquin --> Iroquios hike ... the hiking above treeline on the ridge is the best in the high peaks.I love being on ridges. Here in the Northeast, winter sounds better. So you're saying the ridge between Algonquin and Iroquois is one I should try? I've climbed Algonquin before in winter: adding a ridge traverse makes it sound way better. Ken |
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Gunkiemike wrote:Pitchoff is a MUCH easier day. The Trap Dike is an off-trail, semi-technical ascent of Mt Colden from Avalanche Lake. It is prone to avalanches and fatal tumbles. Some ice climbing experience is highly recommended.Would be a shame to go to Pitchoff and not ice climb . . . Ha, sorry. |
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kenr wrote: I love being on ridges. Here in the Northeast, winter sounds better. So you're saying the ridge between Algonquin and Iroquois is one I should try? I've climbed Algonquin before in winter: adding a ridge traverse makes it sound way better. KenI enjoy the views from Iroquios more, plus being above tree line for over an hour in the dead of winter with that expanse of wilderness around you is something special. |
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kenr wrote: I love being on ridges. Here in the Northeast, winter sounds better. So you're saying the ridge between Algonquin and Iroquois is one I should try? I've climbed Algonquin before in winter: adding a ridge traverse makes it sound way better. KenIt's all one ridge: Wright>Algonquin>Boundary>Iroquois The trail down to Lake Colden is at Boundary. If you're going to be up on Algonquin you might as well just head down the other side and hit up Iroquois too. |
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With a broken trail to at least the tree line on Algonquin the out and back variant of the Mac's is a reasonable day hike with an alpine start (start in the dark, finish by headlamp). Its 11 miles with 5500 feet of gain. Coming off Algonquin on the Wright side you can do a seated glissade and take advantage of gravity (15 minute slide from tree line to the trail junction sign last I did it). If you are breaking trail it is an entirely different matter. The Boundary col to Lake Colden trail is no picnic, in the summer going down is no faster than going up. The other benefit of going down to Lake Colden, rather than up is that if the trail isn't recently broken you won't be affected as much if you like to do seated glissades. If you went down to Lake Colden from the col you would get the benefit of being able to walk across the lakes (normally they are good and frozen in Feb) which makes the Avalanche Lake section much better than the summer trail. |
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Thanks for the help. Yes ridge walking in winter above tree-line is the best. Have done many winter Pres. & Franconia traverses. Can't wait to see the Daks. Was in the Whites last March, the same time the video was shot and there is way more snow than we had in Crawford Notch. 3 of our group are climbers WI3-4 so we will hike the ridge day 1, head to Pitchoff day 2 to climb and head up the valley to check out Trap Dike day 3. Any good less traveled spots on Pitchoff? Will the Mountaineer have current info on the avy risk up on the dike when the time comes? |
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The Mountaineer will have Trap Dike info galore, so definitely stop by and ask. Drew (Haas) will have avy info if he's here, he's one of the local backcountry skiing gurus for the area. :) They're very knowledgeable and experienced, so if they say there's a risk BELIEVE THEM. |
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Pitchoff North Face is awesome. Plenty of lines! Nice multi-pitch lower angle climbing go for Weeping Winds. Steep wi4 climbing: Central Pillar. Then Arm and Hammer/ Tendonitis are right next to them. It can get crowded as hell in there on a busy weekend day, but you can usually find an open route. |
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Another great venue is Chapel Pond Canyon, even more routes than NF of Pitchoff, Haggis and Cold Toast is a must-do!! |
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Ben Brotelho wrote:Another great venue is Chapel Pond Canyon, even more routes than NF of Pitchoff, Haggis and Cold Toast is a must-do!!Second that. Probably why I haven't done PNF... I've been visiting the canyon instead. |
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Awesome. Sounds like a good trip. Will be doing something similar in Feb. |