I kicked my own @$$ (Non-surgical advice for Herniated Disk and Labral tear???)
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After over a decade of guiding and proffesional route setting I developed a Labral tear in my right Shoulder (since 2004)and just recently learned of an "acute Herniated Disk at C6-7. |
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MRI will give you a lot of information on how acute it is. As for treatments, i'll let the folks who have direct experience. The cervical vertebrae aren't a great place to herniate disc's at. |
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Have you looked into plasma rich protein injections? |
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Here's the MRI... Pretty acute, eh? You can see C5-6 isn't happy either. |
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that looks like a fairly sizeable central herniation with cord compression. Im sure you have heard this before, but Im not sure what the longterm prognosis is without surgical intervention. Unfortunately, neck positions required with climbing can make this condition worse. Have not hear of or read studies on the patch. Looks interesting, looking forward to learning more about it. Whatever you do, best wishes for your recovery. Do you use traction with your physical therapy? |
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i'm not a doctor yet, but even i can see that is acute...i'm surprised you havent noticed any impairment beyond just pain... |
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Thank you! I have an appt with a Nuero surgeon on 12/11 |
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Looks juicy! I'm looking at a lumbar fusion myself in the near future, so I feel for you. While I know a lot about lumbar surgeries, I don't know a thing about cervical surgeries, so I won't spout off like I do. But anecdotally, one of my best friends had C5-C6 fused about 4 years ago and is doing absolutely great. He initially hurt it by landing on his cranium off a snowboard jump and just dealt with the pain for years before the nerve tingling and numbness down his arm got too much. They performed the fusion thru the front of his neck and really his range of motion isn't affected much at all. Good luck to you. Get it done before the neuropathy gets bad. |
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Mr. Holmes wrote:Thank you! I have an appt with a Nuero surgeon on 12/11 My guess is that the pain is not linked to the Labrum as I am still climbing .13 - (Ijust pay for it the next day.) Hopefully in fixing the disk I will be able to keep up the theraband/rehab on the shoulder and not have to take drastic action there.look up Brachial Plexus -- cord levels from C5 - T1 - basically innervation of arm, shoulder, and some chest. Perhaps a correlation between your herniated and bulging disc and your shoulder pain! Cheers |
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rock_fencer wrote: look up Brachial Plexus -- cord levels from C5 - T1 - basically innervation of arm, shoulder, and some chest. Perhaps a correlation between your herniated and bulging disc and your shoulder pain! CheersYeah... my thought as well - especially if shoulder specific intervention hasn't been helping the shoulder much.... definitely could be referral from the c-spine. That is a big bulge, and if it correlates to your symptoms surgical intervention is probably where you are headed. If your signs/symptoms do not correlate to C5/6 - C6/7 however (nerve distribution patterns) and it is general 'neck pain', I would be hesitant to have surgery without first failing aggressive conservative treatment - although sounds like you have done that. Good luck! |
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Thank you, Thank you all! |
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I go in for an "artificial Disk replacement" next weds. |
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Where did you get the photo of the TDR cervical? It looks like ceramic? Do you know someone at Amedica? |
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SMR wrote:Where did you get the photo of the TDR cervical? It looks like ceramic? Do you know someone at Amedica?I googled Artificial Disk replacement images :) found here: |
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Have you considered amputation? Just thinking outside the box.... |
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Mike Lane wrote:Have you considered amputation? Just thinking outside the box....Yes, but then I loose my "lead head" ;) I will tell you this though: DO NOT read the surgical blogs prior to a surgery- now I'm totally freaked out... ...Pretty sure I am going to come out with a ducks head, attached, malaria, and broom sticks for arms ! |
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my experience with a labral tear: |
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RockyMtnTed wrote: Oh.... Well how close are you to finishing medical school? Oh you started this fall... so you arent even CLOSE to becoming a doctor yet. Thanks for clearing that up for us all.@ RockyMtnTed Your welcome...i wouldn't want anyone to think that i can provide helpful information, or state obvious observations, and my opinion on the internet. To the OP good luck with the surgery! Cheers T |
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Good luck with your surgery! Thanks for the update and hope you have an uneventful and easy recovery! |
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Good luck with your surgery. As the neurosurgeon probably told you, the surgery is mainly going to help prevent further impingement and thus your symptoms from getting worse - additionally it might improve some of your current symptoms. It sounds like a good element of your shoulder pain is probably referred from your spine, hopefully that will diminish somewhat with the surgery. Good luck! |
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tallmark515 wrote:my experience with a labral tear: I'm in the last stages of recovery from surgery for a labral tear...Thank you for this! I was told similar things. I have an MRI of the labral tear showed "3-6 o'clock" (i.e. front side from apex top to upper arm pit +/-) I agree that the pain is prob in association with the disk and not the tear and hope to be cruising the vertical again by mid Jan (the Optimist comes to mind ;) Thank you, thank you to all you well wishers out there in TV land! Nice to participate in a thread without banter! |