The appeal of ice climbing

Tits McGee wrote:There is no appeal. Mind your business, nothing to see heren move along... Any one interested in learning ice, it is terrible, but I hear snow boarding rocks!

Agreed! Just back from Brighton saw the appeal. Cigarettes, Red bull, music streaming thru the Dr. Dre's in the line. Chair carries you to the top and you shoot Digi and stills with the 5D and the L series lens the whole way down. SICK!

Alex Quitiquit wrote: Well in the world of science, when the solid form of water, which we shall call, of let's just say, ice, gets warmer it turns into a liquid, let's call that water. Unless you ice climb on dry ice and shit just sublimates instantly when warm. But trolling can only be so easy huh?

Not an ice climber, but ice does sublimate, it's just harder to witness it happening. It's the reverse of the process that makes frost. You need very dry air and an energy source, such as bright sunlight. Dry ice sublimates so apparently because the ambient air provides all the energy the process needs to happen and air is relatively "dry" for carbon dioxide (only about 4%")

Sublimation of Ice.

"Sublimation occurs more readily when certain weather conditions are present, such as low relative humidity and dry winds. Sublimation also occurs more at higher altitudes, where the air pressure is less than at lower altitudes. Energy, such as strong sunlight, is also needed. If I was to pick one place on Earth where sublimation happens a lot, I might choose the south face of Mt. Everest. Low temperatures, strong winds, intense sunlight, very low air pressure—just the recipe for sublimation to occur."

John Marsella wrote: But what happens if the local environment hits triple-point, or the atmospheric pressure drops drastically and the temperature stays constant (like, a couple of orders of magnitude)? In those situations, n00b could have a point (of course, there would be other problems concurrent to those conditions)

I can only assume, given your other worldly conditions, that a gamma ray burst has struck the vicinity of said ice formation causing immediate sublimation. And complete and utter destruction of the local environment.

Alex Quitiquit wrote: Well in the world of science, when the solid form of water, which we shall call, of let's just say, ice, gets warmer it turns into a liquid, let's call that water. Unless you ice climb on dry ice and shit just sublimates instantly when warm. But trolling can only be so easy huh?

Actually, ice sublimates to water vapor as well as liquid water at the same instant. When ice meets sun, this happens. Water has very different properties from other liquids on this planet. I would think if you wanted to quote science you would already know about the properties of water.
See here... physics has the answer
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What's with all the snarkyness? I'm asking a valid question.

Climb ice, snow, mud, trees, roots and rock.

Then you can climb anything.

n00bw1b00b wrote:What's with all the snarkyness? I'm asking a valid question.

uh, it's mountain project...and your name is noob with one boob.

Tits McGee wrote: uh, it's the internet ...and your name is noob with one boob.

fixed that for ya.

Thanks Glen, good looking out!

1) It's aesthetic: Look at these lines...

Ouray 2012

2) It's rhythmic: Kick, kick, kick, kick, stand-hipsthrust, swing

3) It's stress-relieving: other than chopping wood, when else do you get to swing sharp things and smash stuff productively?

4) It's easy

The only reason you ask is because you've never done it. Try it once an you'll get it. It's just beautiful.

Tits McGee wrote:There is no appeal. Mind your business, nothing to see heren move along... Any one interested in learning ice, it is terrible, but I hear snow boarding rocks!

Yes...ice climbing is pain and suffering, definitely not worth the time. Please stay at home and leave all the ice for us masochists that completely understand what it's all about. If you already hate winter then just stay at home, some people like it and others hate it. Do you ski? If you like other winter sports then it's great.

Just to clarify I'm only quoting you tits in support of your post, then answering the op's question.

Richard88 wrote: Yes...ice climbing is pain and suffering, definitely not worth the time. Please stay at home and leave all the ice for us masochists that completely understand what it's all about. .

OOOhhhhhh, but what if I want to walk around in 1,000 worth of gear carrying a pack with 2,000 worth of gear in the cold to fight over the same three threads of ice? What if I love masturbation but can't quite do that motion 200 times without serious ramifications? What if I adore the shape of an ice pick? How else will I make my non-masochists ego survive?

cant this be buried in the ice climbing forum?

where is the tree climbing forum anyways?

plastic forum?

Why do people risk life and limb to rock climb? Why do people run to exhaustion so they can shoot spheres into nets or baskets? Why do people wake up ass-early in the morning to hike peaks for sunrise?

Because it's cool. Because it's pretty. Because it's fun. "Because it's there."

If you want a universal reason, I don't think there is one. To each his own, and may we all have a hell of a good time while doing it, whatever 'it' may be!

It did wonders for my mescaline problem.

Public Masturbation....... ice climbing at its finest....

Public Masturbation M8 (pre-crux)

Again, asking why we ice climbing just like non-climbers ask us we we climb at all or like other people as builders why they like climbing buildings.

Sometimes we do certain thing for no reason, we are just follow out hearts and enjoy it. I am sure most experience ice climbers will say that they climb ice is not because it looks cool to someone. It's all about taming our fear and learning to master certain set of skills to solve a particular problem/puzzle.

I know this answer will not please you, n00bw1b00b. Again since we are living in this free world, one has the right to decide what to do and what not to do in one's life. If you don't like certain, just walk away from it since there is no other human being pointing a gun at one's head and makes him to do certain thing.

Climb safe (on whatever medium you prefer to climb on.)

Richard88 wrote: Hahaha, every time I go ice climbing my wife cleans the whole house because she's so nervous she can't stop moving

Haha lucky you Richard to have someone care about you like that!

Climbing frozen water is awesome! And besides, only ice climber knows what it actually means to "push the bush."

n00bw1b00b wrote:dealing with a medium that goes from solid to gas when warmed.

This is also true of climbing gyms