When to use screamers

dont waste money on screamers just buy a better rope with an impact force < 8kN. Most blue water single ropes are 7.8 kN.

I definitely think everyone is arguing the same point

and if I ever put in a 10cm stubby into ice I can see the rock behind, no matter what, it gets a screamer - Even if Will Gadd says differently.

it's not about what you say, IT'S ABOUT HOW LOUD YOU SAY IT!!!!!!

Gotta love the internet...people arguing the same point back and forth, sorry folks

Ben Botelho wrote:it's not about what you say, IT'S ABOUT HOW LOUD YOU SAY IT!!!!!! Gotta love the internet...people arguing the same point back and forth, sorry folks

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No screamers, save your money. Hmmm. If a screamer keeps that suspect piece from blowing, it may save you a lot of money, and an agonizing rehab.

A screamer could - could make the difference between a grounder or walking away. Why not stack the odds more in your favor?

The quesion goes a bit further than just screamer versus no screamer. Yates, on their website, suggests that Zipper Screamers are better than their Standard Screamers in ice.

My typical ice climbing rack has 3 to 6 Zipper Screamers and 3 or so Standard Screamers. My typical rock climbing rack has 2 or 3 Standard Screamers.

Climb Ohn. Wally

people use screamers in rock climbing?

superkick wrote:people use screamers in rock climbing?

not to change the topic, but what is everyone's favorite biner for screamers and draws when you go ice climbing?

coop wrote:not to change the topic, but what is everyone's favorite biner for screamers and draws when you go ice climbing?

superkick wrote:people use screamers in rock climbing?

johnthethird wrote: Yup, great for mankey pins at the gunks...or anywhere for that matter

coop wrote:not to change the topic, but what is everyone's favorite biner for screamers and draws when you go ice climbing?

Richard88 wrote: We're all gonna die!

when you want to impress the neighbors.

Screamer drop test:
Here

Will Gadd Ice Climbing Vid:
Vid

He explains his gear in the video including sharp thingy's, slinging icicles and clippy things.

Focus on the work house of the rack.

richie wrote:when you want to impress the neighbors.

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Just climb ice like the Carr Boys......

1st rule, don't fall......

2nd, rule stopping to place screws is a waste of time & energy......

Sally and Ben should never go climbing together, lest the world devolve into semantic nonsense.