People with GoPros:

chuck claude wrote: And why does what other people do, bother you so. If thats your attitude, why do you even bother climb. Imtake it that YOU aren't climbing 5.15b sport or 5.14c trad, and ONLY putting up FA's. If you do a second ascents, wouldn't that be so passe... Do you take photos of anything. As a friend of mine once said, there are very few photo's who's basic concept hasn't already been done ad nausem.... You ski. So what first descents have you done..... Oh, wait, people do things for FUN... Thats right. And maybe someone finds fulfillment in their recent 5.6 onsite. Is that any different then your recent 5.13d trad red point. The numbers may be different but if someone finds fun and fulfzillment in what theynare doing... Way cool. . Bury your own ego and let other people have fun in ways they see fit. I respect people who do things for fun, rather then let their egos control their lives.

I have no idea what you said? But yeah, many first descents on skis, None of them have been sprayed, none of them have been written about, but many of the lines have been shared and are getting repeated. I think that was the only question I understood in your comment, and for the rest of the statements, I don't know what your talking about.

I think what he meant to say is you come off as a negative douche. Just relax and if you don't have anything nice to say. Keep it to yourself.We all get it; you are 2 cool for School man.

The Go pro is really only useful if you choose to put some time and effort into it. Climbing is really a pretty boring sport from the spectator's point of view, unless you put some effort into editing your videos. I try to condense everything down to six minutes or so, because no matter how awesome that 40 minutes of intense leading was to you, nobody will watch your video if it is that long. This can be a challenge if I have an hour or two of footage. If you expect to simply glue it to your head and get awesome videos, then certainly don't buy it.

I'll sell my HD Hero 2 for $180 if anyone wants it. I've used it twice. Not trying to hijack this thread for personal gain, but it just seems like there are many looking at this that may be interested. If you've ever wanted have loads of footage that you will most likely never use, hit me up and we can make a deal!

Come on, you know you wanna be like these guys

NumberoneD wrote:I think what he meant to say is you come off as a negative douche. Just relax and if you don't have anything nice to say. Keep it to yourself.We all get it; you are 2 cool for School man.

Hilarious if you don't want to see pebble wrestling why would you even be looking. I've been watching a lot of boating video's lately I find them to be the most enjoyable.

As for climbing they seem to work better when mounted to the rock or when someone hangs next to the climber, usually with the camera on a pole.

J1. wrote: Feel free to check out my blog. lucidmountainadventures.blogspot.com there are a few movies I've made with my GoPro that might give you an idea of what you can do with them..

I liked the ski vids but the climbing one was too jerky in my opinion. Can't see how one would do a really good POV for climbing. Especially on a really long route. The shots from the belay were better I thought.

Maybe if you just got vid while close to the belays and then thru in some still's. But I would leave out the helmet cam I just couldn't keep watching it.

Seems like if you had two so that you could at least get each climber when near the belay. It would be great if you had a way to clip it in safe so you could leave it mid pitch so as to get your second climbing past.

I sometimes ride with these guys youtube.com/watch?v=P2f7US0…

He has 5 camera's and composes his own music. I think his stuff comes out great. Having all of the different angles and that they trade off who's in front really helps.

I am in the market for a new camera haven't got the $ yet but the go pro is starting to look good.

Anyone tried a chest cam set up for climbing. Seems like it would be cool to see a few seconds of someone's hands placing gear and jams. Not for a full pitch just mixed in with other shots.

That looks like a really fun place to ride! I like the slow techy bits.. Kinda reminds me of riding the North Shore, only bone dry! Haha.

I've worn a GoPro on my chest before. The cam stays in place but is uncomfortable. I had a pressure suit on so I think the camara was out too far from my chest. Maybe too many layers?

I put a mount for my GoPro on the side of my helmet. That way part of me is in the video. I think you get a better perspective ( I think that's the word) of what's going on.

In my opinion this is the best use for go pro

YouTube.com/watch?v=WJiYLh_…

Tim McCabe wrote: I liked the ski vids but the climbing one was too jerky in my opinion. Can't see how one would do a really good POV for climbing. Especially on a really long route. The shots from the belay were better I thought. Maybe if you just got vid while close to the belays and then thru in some still's. But I would leave out the helmet cam I just couldn't keep watching it. Seems like if you had two so that you could at least get each climber when near the belay. It would be great if you had a way to clip it in safe so you could leave it mid pitch so as to get your second climbing past.

Ya,Im still trying to figure out the best way to utilize the GoPro for climbing.. Skiing, cycling , and Ice climbing the videos seem to come out ok..I have found that shorter clips or editing the video down to just a couple moves can help..It does get boring pretty fast though..
I also agree the more cameras the better... Cool video of riding in Tucson..
I guess you could try clipping the GoPro to a piece of gear that you place while leading, then you could get shots of the second as they climb-up-to and clean the route..

Ian Stewart wrote: "Obsolete" may be harsh, but there's always something better around the corner. In terms of "holding your videos back", it depends on what you mean. A HERO 2 will record videos, just like a HERO 3, but the quality and features of the latter can certainly help make the video better even if you're not a pro athlete. Smaller/lighter: not really needed, but nice. Higher resolution: more picture definition. Higher framerate: better fast-action smoothness and/or slower slow-motion. WiFi remote: convenience WiFi viewfinder: choosing the right angle can make (or break) your video Other things are always being improved upon too that aren't really easy to convey in a spec sheet. Brightness, white balance and color reproduction, for example, are always being improved. Most of my snowboarding videos end up being shitty because my older Contour camera doesn't do too great in this scenario. Compared to the demo video for the HERO 3, which includes snowboarding shots where the sun is IN the frame, it's a completely different ballgame.

I guess my main point is that I think artistic vision, editing skills, and general experience shooting video will go a long way to making someones films more interesting, regardless of fancy camera.

Fat Dad wrote:Edit: Ian, nice video, but what's up with the sound. Sounds like you have playing cards stuck in your spokes.

That's what I meant about the sound always being shitty. When you mount the camera on a rigid bike fork 12" above the ground and go 57mph down even a slightly bumpy road, every sound is amplified like crazy. Especially in my case since I have the contour camera and not the gopro, which has a worse mounting system and it rattles a bit (likely what you're hearing). The contour is good for a helmet mount, but I think every other mount the gopro is better. If I bought another camera it would be a gopro (I won the contour). I think newer cameras also have the mics positioned in a way to reduce wind noise and such.

Ben Botelho wrote:it's supposed to be a panty-dropping aid...everyone knows this!

nice Ben! is that what I am lacking? Getting me a go pro now

never used the gopro but using the contour on my helmet, i'm riding in central america on my motorcycle and find the vids interesting to a certain degree. i don't like the teletuby look of the gopro (mounted to a motorcycle helmet), however i think it may have better optics than the contour. may try the gopro in the future attached to crashbar or something. i am not sure about the use of a video camera for climbing though. seems as though you're a little close to the wall, but i have not seen many climbing videos that people have made. i am finding it interesting and fun to edit and put music to the videos which is part of the appeal for me.

I got one as a gift... I have since then discovered the usefulness of having it take one picture every 30seconds or once every minute. On multi-pitch climbs this is amazing. Sure you will 800 photo's when you plug it back into your computer but it will take pictures you never would think of... I have a picture right as my buddy and I topped out on a long climb in the middle of a high-five. This sounds dumb but was our single best picture of the climb. It eliminates the need to stop what your are doing and take out a camera, risk dropping it, and try to get a good picture. Another thing we have done was to leave it somewhere and have it do a time-lapse of some of our climbs... Really helped us see some of our weak spots in certain climbs/adjust our style, but also some good route beta/fun pictures too. Get creative with the time-lapse it is pretty cool.

Used it for videos for a brief time but then discovered what everyone else has... You'll never watch the videos...

One downside, every person who thinks they are hot shit, thinks they are on video and this brings out the extra douche in them until you tell them it's taking pictures... Normally they are like "oh" "that thing can do that... that might be kinda cool" yeah... I know. We are not always to get sweet footage...

some of us are just too freakin lazy to take a camera out of our pocket....

Go Pro footage is most entertaining if combined with a 3rd person camera angle. My best friend works for a sky diving company editing go pro footage. He came out to visit me in Colorado and we made this video:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUyCr…

I climbed it twice, once with the go pro, once without. The route was like 5.4, so not really that exciting. I think it would have been a boring video were it just first person footage or just third person footage. But together it's kinda cool, obviously nothing groundbreaking. But I think that the GoPro democratizes adventure film making, and I'll always watch a well done YouTube video made with a helmet cam.

youtube.com/watch?v=ofLZoaU…

I don't own one, but I have at least one friend I climb/ride with who does, and it definitely gets some use. Even if you never make a full edited video from the footage, you'll can get some cool pictures pulling stills from video.

Nate C wrote:What do you do with your videos? Do you ever watch them? Show them to other people? I feel like I would love having some things recorded, but I feel like I would never do anything with them... Are they worth getting, or was it simply cool at first and now sits in a drawer somewhere? I know it depends on the person, but I was hoping to get some general opinions.

Racing is one of the best uses for GoPro cameras. With some effort, I took two of the original cameras, one standard view angle and one wide-angle, and was able to sync the video in premiere to make this ice racing vid:

youtube.com/watch?v=RMVbuRz…

Climbing is comparatively slow and not conducive to video action, IMO.

youtube.com/watch?v=wQbsoWi…