how do y'all haul your gear?

John D wrote: The OP is taking groups out, when you're guiding it's unbelievable the amount of gear you have to take. I usually have 4 or 5 ropes a full double rack, and 10 or so lockers. And sometimes I'm stuck carrying 10-12 harnesses, plus my own lunch and water. Try fitting that in a 33L pack.

This is at times true. Honestly the arcteryx miura 50 is the best functioning pack I've explored so far...

The Muira 50 is so sick. Aboutut 3 of my friends have it, and absolutely RAVE about it as a daily crag pack.

I put all my Cams, stoppers, nut tool and all sharp edged pieces in a
canvis/cotton shopping bag.

Then I drop this into whatever size pack Im carrying at the moment.

I find the extra padding for the gear keeps my pack from wearing out on the hi points.

I never clip things to the outside of my pack... I go to out of the way places mostly with lots of bushwacking involved. Anything that can get snagged on the brush will get snagged, stopping you at just the wrong moment.

Have a nice day.

As said before, a basic 35-55 liter crag pack will cover most needs.

For keeping extra gear in the car on day or weekend trips, the 59 cent Ikea bag is very utilitarian.

These Ikea bags also make good bags for bouldering; they roll up well inside a crash pad.

They also make for a good "crag pack" for ultra-roadside climbing (Rifle, the climbing gym etc), since you never need to unpack them; everything is accessible.

Jon Moen wrote:[Ikea bags] also make for a good "crag pack" for ultra-roadside climbing (Rifle, the climbing gym etc), since you never need to unpack them; everything is accessible.

I've actually started using an Ikea bag as a rope tarp/bag instead of my "real" rope bag. I just throw the bag w/ rope into my backpack (Aether 70, as mentioned before), then take it out and plop it down when I get to the crag (haven't yet been on a short enough approach that I'd want to carry just the Ikea bag, but I definitely would). They're big enough that you can use the rope right out of the bag and flake it directly into it when cleaning, then when you're moving around between climbs you can just throw the things you'll need (shoes, draws, guide, jacket, etc) into the bag and pick it up. Unless I move more than a few hundred yards, I'll leave my backpack where it was and just haul the Ikea bag around.

It also has two sets of handles: one short, one long. I'll tie the top end of the rope onto one of the short handles, and the long handles are long enough to carry the bag over your shoulder. It also keeps the rope much cleaner than a standard tarp, which I find always ends up having dirt kicked all over it anyways.

[Off topic] Of course, my wife also uses them for shopping (not just Ikea). They're extremely useful at Sam's Club where they don't offer bags: she'll open one up in the cart and then place everything into the bag directly with the barcode facing up. Their self-checkout has a portable scanner and you don't have to take the things out of your cart, so she just scans it right in the bag and loads it into the car, no problem.

For $0.59, you can't lose.

muira 50L or the DIAD 50L Haul bag from Run out customs

i love my black diamond demon duffel.

Sorry if someone already mentioned this, but you should check out the metolius crag station. Cheaper and almost as functional as the Muira. It's more of a duffel but also works as a backpack, it can fit more than my 40l top loading pack and is more comfortable.

I'll check it out baminem

I've worn a hole in my pack also from cams, I now use a big ditty bag from REI for the rack and it works great. Keeps everything nicely organized too. One for the rack, one for draws. I use a 46L bag. Rope gets strapped under the lid on the outside.