Eldo sucks AKA the crag blasphemer's thread

Creed Archibald wrote:I LOVE reading these forums. Climbers are probably the most arrogant, obnoxious people on the planet. I think it's incredibly entertaining. Today I'm going to talk some trash and join the fun. Dude ... maybe you should have finished high school before you became the most fabulously well-traveled 22 year old in the history of rock climbing. You may not like the Eldo run outs, but I don't like your run-on sentences. You have more comma splices than carabiners. I teach 7th grade english and my 12 year olds write tighter prose. Get it together, man.

Oh shit. Grammar smack down. Probably the best diss since Eazy E's "Real Mutha F@&$ing G's reminded us that Dre Day only made Eazy's pay day.

Trolling aside, I dig some of these answers quite a bit. I only used Eldo to A. get a response and b. because that's the area that made me think about this. Jon Moen's point about pre conceived notions affecting our actual hands on experience is a great point. Index Washington is one of my favorite crags to climb at, and I think it's extra special for me because I didn't know it existed until two days before I first climbed there.

Lets get this thread back on track. I've always thought Rifle is a greasy, overhyped, chipped pile. And Eldo rules by the way.

adam brink wrote:I've always thought Rifle is a greasy, overhyped, chipped pile.

You could also write the same sentence, but exchange "Jailhouse" for "Rifle". Although Jailhouse isn't so much a rock climbing area as it is a rock crawling area.

Dude... pass me that blunt yo...

While we're talking about shitty crags, as an east coast climber, I want to give a shout out to the gunks. It's a long drive to expensive, crowded cliffs.

Red Rocks. It could crumble into sand tomorrow and I would just shrug.

willeslinger wrote: Jon Moen's point about pre conceived notions affecting our actual hands on experience is a great point. Index Washington is one of my favorite crags to climb at, and I think it's extra special for me because I didn't know it existed until two days before I first climbed there.

Thanks. I really think that the biggest issue with Eldo isn't choss, runouts, one-move-wonders, crowds, or any of the other things that people gripe about. The biggest issue is hype. It is an amazing local crag, but it is kind of the runt of the litter when you throw it in the the "world-class" pool. Unforetunately, it has so much history and hype that it has weaseled its way into a weight class where it doesn't belong. If compared to Yosemite, the Verdon, etc, Eldo is a pathetic little turd. But when compared to other "local's areas" in the US, it sure as hell has Pinnacles (California) beat.

Eldo only sucks when compared to places that it doesn't deserved to be compared to. When put into the right weight class, it is a pretty rad little canyon.

camhead wrote:The Red. The climbing is ok, but the scene has made me stop loving it for several years. Other crags I think are overhyped are Reimer's, HCR, and all of the Front Range except Splatte.

Thanks for sparing the SPlatte! Although there is a lot of choss there too haha!

MIYG wrote:Dude... pass me that blunt yo...

Absolutely

Its a bummer that almost this entire posting is about areas you don't want to climb in or you're trashing the climbing experiences you have had in these now disliked areas. This is really sad for those who have trashed because I think that climbing is %50 the places we get to go and %50 everything else we get to do. I'd say that the places we visit make up a majority of climbing's appeal. I did however just notice the full title for this forum being "Eldo sux AKA the crag blasphemer's thread" so maybe I just should have not clicked on it.
Either way, bummer.
Jon S.

Glenn Schuler wrote: Yeah, but it's an ultra classic chosspile!

Exactly!

and Hell Cave in American Fork, UT. dingy nighmarish greaseball slapping..

Jon C. Sullivan wrote:Its a bummer that almost this entire posting is about areas you don't want to climb in or you're trashing the climbing experiences you have had in these now disliked areas. This is really sad for those who have trashed because I think that climbing is %50 the places we get to go and %50 everything else we get to do. I'd say that the places we visit make up a majority of climbing's appeal. I did however just notice the full title for this forum being "Eldo sux AKA the crag blasphemer's thread" so maybe I just should have not clicked on it. Either way, bummer. Jon S.

Damnit. You know, I think you've all figured out my plan. I wasn't setting out to simply ask a question about crags that you may not just LOVE but everyone else seems to. I was trying to recruit fellow saboteurs to set off a dirty bomb in Eldorado Canyon State Park so no one could ever climb again, ever. Damnit. The Harlem Globetrotters didn't even get to join in before you ruined it.

you are

Boulder Canyon
Rumney

I climbed there once. It was fun. I suppose if I lived in Boulder I'd probably climb there a lot. But I don't think I'd ever live close enough to make another trip.

To have a place like eldo in ones back yard and then complain of its quality...

Try living in Texas you might appreciate it more.

frankstoneline: "this statement really illustrated your ignorance. The northwest is nothing but some hardened mud with holds molded by spandex and hammer and piles of stones rapidly succumbing to the temptations of gravity. Also rain"

yes there is rain....but what about Leavenworth....and the lederhosen?

All Killer No Filler wrote: The New. It rains all the goddamn time, it's like hooking up with Salma Hayek and finding out she's on the rag 29 days a month. Annoying, though the good days are unbeatable.

Now that's funny!

As for the odds, that's a chance I'd be willing to take.

wankel7 wrote:To have a place like eldo in ones back yard and then complain of its quality... Try living in Texas you might appreciate it more.

Amen, brother!

We visited Eldo for the first time recently and felt like I was in climbing heaven!