Culp-Bossier

Tammy Payne wrote:If you're feeling froggy head to Black Canyon in Gunnison and hit Escape Artist.

I hope you're not serious.

Greg D wrote:Interesting suggestions. The flatirons are nothing like the culp bossier. If you are competent at 5.8 you can run up the flatirons after work and still make happy hour. Green slab direct? Hmmm. 20 minutes from the parking lot. 15 minute walk off. Strike two! Have people recommending other routes actually been on culp bossier. Not that it is hard, but some of these recommendations are not even close.

I suggested the first flatiron because it is pretty close to the length of C-B, it is runout, and you can climb anywhere as long as you are close to the route. Those attributes make it similar, other attributes make it different. You're a cotton headed ninny muggin.

Vaughne wrote:You're a cotton headed ninny muggin.

I love "Elf".

Greg D wrote: No, its not. Lets see, super solid rock, other climbers everywhere, free soloist blowing by you, getting off route is no big deal, single rappel which is easy to find, 8000ft elevation instead of 12000ft, 20 minutes back to the car. Shall I go on. I did not disagree.

Getting off route = no big deal? yeah thats the culp for ya.
single easy to find rappel? ok, well I guess the clup has two easy to find rappels.
20 minutes back to the car? once again you are correct, the culp might take an hour.

I understand your point, that the culp is more difficult and committing. I just get tired of the overly hyped danger and intensity of alpine rock climbing.

I also would support the suggestion for the black canyon. No, the approach is nothing like an alpine climb, but the climbing is comparable. I think i would suggest leisure climb or maiden voyage before getting on escape artist.

Anything in the park can be epic if you meander off route, especially in October on Hallet Peak. Try something different in a less committing environment up to ten pitches.

Most of the suggestions made here in good faith were not as direct comparisons. I wouldn't advise anyone to do an October ascent on the Hallett North Face, but the Flatiron climb doesn't even rank as a close comparison. I've done both the Northcutt-Carter and the Englishman's Routes on Hallett. Try something long in Eldo under less than ideal conditions (after a snowstorm) for a sample of being cold, wet, and miserable.

C-B is kinda hard for the grad. Definitely not Bo Can 5.8 by any means. Route-finding isn't the worst, but it isn't super straight forward. The Lumpys suggestions are apropos.