Feds Deny CO Extreme Skier His Place as Great Ski Movie Producer

The thing is, there too many issues that go unnoticed and do not get discussed in Colorado. Remember the 2010 elections in Colorado? We were electing a Governor yet, every candidate, news agency, and pundit just parroted the national debate.

The silence continues, no talk about the merger of CO Parks with CO Wildlife, I-70 corridor, dying forest, growing metro, constitutionality of day user fees, mismanagement of CO Parks, advertising in State Parks as bailout remedy, water storage and use, massive solar and wind projects on public land, the closing of 11 coal fired plants in CO (2013). And the Federalism v anti-federalism debate is 800lb gorilla in the room. (CO's liberal media who favor central planners won't touch it, so it is off most people's radar.)

I expected more from the climbing community, the only time there is any sort of intellectual rumbling around here is when the Mainstream Media tells you to get mad about something, and even then it is the predicable copy and paste of talking points. Want to bring change? We the people need to initiate the conversation, stop being the media's Pavlov's Dog.

Keep in mind, the two-party system works great for a method of organizing, but most of you use it as a prism to see the world. Bound by the shackles of partisan "either/or" there are few "free thinkers" left in the climbing community and self-appointed thought police have long chased them from the forums.

How can you really solve any problems if bureaucratic partisan solutions is all you are capable of? Problem solving is non linear and should not be restricted by advancing your team's power. Surprising once you allow yourself to become a free thinker and do not allow yourself to play the partisan games, the problems America face do not seem so daunting.

While most of you swing from nut sack to nut sack of politicians that promise the world, I will quietly go about my business speaking truth to power. If Romney gets elected I will bring the same fight to his administration.

If you want News that will not waiver from protecting your rights and your state's rights,

I will be doing my thing at MountainNewsDesk.com

God Bless America and thank you for your support.

The Watchdog wrote:The thing is, there too many issues that go unnoticed and do not get discussed in Colorado. Remember the 2010 elections in Colorado? We were electing a Governor yet, every candidate, news agency, and pundit just parroted the national debate. The silence continues, no talk about the merger of CO Parks with CO Wildlife, I-70 corridor, dying forest, growing metro, constitutionality of day user fees, mismanagement of CO Parks, advertising in State Parks as bailout remedy, water storage and use, massive solar and wind projects on public land, the closing of 11 coal fired plants in CO (2013). And the Federalism v anti-federalism debate is 800lb gorilla in the room. (CO's liberal media who favor central planners won't touch it, so it is off most people's radar.) I expected more from the climbing community, the only time there is any sort of intellectual rumbling around here is when the Mainstream Media tells you to get mad about something, and even then it is the predicable copy and paste of talking points. Want to bring change? We the people need to initiate the conversation, stop being the media's Pavlov's Dog. Keep in mind, the two-party system works great for a method of organizing, but most of you use it as a prism to see the world. Bound by the shackles of partisan "either/or" there are few "free thinkers" left in the climbing community and self-appointed thought police have long chased them from the forums. How can you really solve any problems if bureaucratic partisan solutions is all you are capable of? Problem solving is non linear and should not be restricted by advancing your team's power. Surprising once you allow yourself to become a free thinker and do not allow yourself to play the partisan games, the problems America face do not seem so daunting. While most of you swing from nut sack to nut sack of politicians that promise the world, I will quietly go about my business speaking truth to power. If Romney gets elected I will bring the same fight to his administration. If you want News that will not waiver from protecting your rights and your state's rights, I will be doing my thing at MountainNewsDesk.com God Bless America and thank you for your support.

Sooo...are you like...even a climber???

Scott McMahon wrote: Sooo...are you like...even a climber???

Maybe. He sure as hell isn't a biologist:
mountainproject.com/v/shoul…

Tony B wrote: Maybe. He sure as hell isn't a biologist: mountainproject.com/v/shoul…

Lone Wolf.

This is a First Amendment issue, not a states' rights matter.

Note that free speech concerns played a role in the Forest Service's 2010 decision to temporarily allow commercial filming (with restrictions such as a permit requirements, focus on wilderness values, etc.).

"We're aware of... the connection with the First Amendment for free speech, and our intent is not to regulate that amendment. Our intent is to regulate what's appropriate for wilderness."

- Terry Knupp, Forest Service Wilderness Program manager in Washington, D.C. idahoptv.org/press/showStor…

Just because the Wilderness Act bars filming for commercial enterprise does not mean it would survive a court challenge. If Dav decided to sell his movie and the feds dropped the hammer, I think it would be interesting to see what a high court might decide and why.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in regulations on filming in wilderness areas, see fs.fed.us/specialuses/speci…

The Watchdog wrote:I expected more from the climbing community, the only time there is any sort of intellectual rumbling around here is when the Mainstream Media tells you to get mad about something, and even then it is the predicable copy and paste of talking points. Want to bring change? We the people need to initiate the conversation, stop being the media's Pavlov's Dog.

So you make a post about "Feds Deny CO Extreme Skier His Place as Great Ski Movie Producer", claiming that they're thwarting his attempt to profit from his work, but then you later thank another user for posting "the rest of the story" when he said the skier in question didn't pull the permits that would have allowed him to do so, just as any other film maker would have to do. I fail to see how what you're doing is better than any of the other sensationalist media outlets.

Then, you turn the entire thread into some outlet for your far-right spewing and call out climbers specifically for not caring? Maybe if you started talking about something that climbers actually agreed with you'd get more support here.

The Watchdog wrote:God Bless America and thank you for your support.

Has anybody actually supported you so far? I haven't agreed with a single one of your threads and I'd rather not have whatever God it is that you speak of involved with any part of my life. Thanks me all you want, but I won't be supporting your ideas in any way.