I am really interested in hiking Mt.Hood
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So last February I moved to Portland. I've been looking at Mt.Hood a whole lot and wanting to hike it more and more. Although being a snowy and icey hike (as well as seasonal) leaves me wondering where I should start in order to conquer this little dream of mine. Can it be done in the winter? Or do I have to perhaps wait until Spring? |
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i've seen that mt.hood has a lot of guided hikes... but is in necessary? I feel like this may kinda take away from the type of experience i'd like to go on... I'm not all that enthusiastic about going with a bunch of strangers compared to some friends... kinda reminds me of going on a field trip and having to listen to the teachers the whole time to be honest... |
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Mt Hood is normally done in the spring, May thru July. Winter climbs are possible but weather and snow conditions can change quickly that time of year. |
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Thanks for the info Jeb :) |
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Aasguard pass is a hiking trail, Hood would be very different. If your foot slips on a hiking trail you fall onto the trail and stop, if your foot slips on snow you and your partner could die. |
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jTaylor. |
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Keenan Waeschle wrote:Aasguard pass is a hiking trail, Hood would be very different. If your foot slips on a hiking trail you fall onto the trail and stop, if your foot slips on snow you and your partner could die.I kindly disagree Keenan, there are plenty of spots on Aasgard (as well as Katahdin) where if you slip you can take a long and nasty potentially deadly fall. I know about the Helicopter story as well... thanks . . . Jeff Fiedler wrote:jTaylor. It sounds like you might not have much (any?) experience with crampons on your feet and an ice axe.Hi Jeff, I really appreciate your post :) No I do not have experience with crampons and an ice axe, exactly why I am here (to learn). While on the note of learning, do you guys have specific crampon choices? I did read that the stiffer the better, so I at least have one thing I know to look for in my ideal pair. Now to figure out what point setup is ideal... and maybe a few other things? Jeff Fiedler wrote: So at least just practice a bit before doing the upper section of this climb (i.e., above the hogsback, and the final ice chute). How about going one weekend and just climbing the lower snow slopes, and practice with your crampons, a bit of glissading, self arrest. You'll figure a few things out, have fun, and also be able to scope the upper section. Then go back for the full thing when you are a bit sorted out.Great advice, I will for sure do this when the season comes around. Jeff Fiedler wrote: And are you and your friends going to rope up? What portions? If yes, practice that. The ice ramp requires traversing back and forth and around other climbers -- can you do that safely while roped? Or if not roped, do you all accept what you are doing on the ice where it will be tricky to self arrest?I would plan to go with a friend and rope would be brought for sure, it doesn't look to necessary to me from the trails i've seen pictures of thus far but for sure I would always rather be safe than sorry. I will for sure look into the ice ramp more though to be prepared as much as I can be, thanks :) ...anyways I did find this today which i found extremely helpful.. hopefully it can help anyone who may find this thread in the search engine looking for the help that I was looking for. Only skimmed it over so quick since I am at work at the moment, but it looks like it has all the answers I came here for mountainshop.net/blog/?page… from the mountain shop mt.hood FAQ: "Before climbing Mt. Hood, you should go on several training hikes. These hikes should consist of elevation gains of 3,000-5,000 feet and distances of 2-4 miles to simulate the slope of Mt. Hood. Locally these are climbs such as Table Mountain, Dog Mountain, Hamilton Mountain and Mount Defiance to name a few. During these hikes, if possible, carry the equipment you will climb with. If you do not own all the equipment you will need, put other items in to simulate weight. A pack of 20-30 pounds is average for a Mt. Hood climb." I found this pretty helpful as well... please keep in mind everyone, if you are gonna tell someone they aren't ready for something... maybe next time give them clues at where to start? This excerpt was taken from the "training" portion. |
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Seriously, not trying to be rude, but I strongly recommend getting on some nice steep snow slope with a good safe, rock-less runout zone and practice self arresting. Once you can arrest a fall on 50 to 60° snow slopes after falling head first on your back with a pack on, I'd say you got it figured out. I say this because after a few solid years of alpine experience, I took a fall on 60° snow this summer. Within a couple seconds I was 100 feet down the slope. It is a good thing self arrest was second-nature or I would have hit the rocks below and I would not be writing this response to you right now. If you fall on parts of Hood, you had better be able to stop yourself as well. I am sure you could check out cascadeclimbers.com for some good glissading spots to practice on. |
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Jack, you do not come off as rude what so ever. I appreciate your insight. |
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Yes, you are overconfident. This can become worse by "false success." To climb a mountain, it's not enough to be capable of getting to the top when things go right. |
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i didn't state a guide would teach me like i'm four. I said it would feel like a teacher on a field trip. If your gonna rearrange my words to fit your perspective i'd appreciate you not even posting in here as I am here to learn from this forum and have clearly stated numerous times my opinion on the guide situation. |
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It is really easy to sit here on the internet and assume that you are one of the idiots that we have all dealt with on various climbs, but the truth is that we all had to start somewhere and we all had to push our limits a bit to get where we are now. You'll always have people telling you that you are too dumb to climb the next big thing that is just a little out of your current ability level. The best thing to do is prepare for thethe climb and ignore the nay-sayers, but understand the risks. Always be willing to turn around if things aren't going well (this happens a lot and doesn't really mean that you are a failure in any way), but it never hurts to go see for yourself what the climb is like. Do your research and when you are confident, head out to the route and give'r. |
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jTaylor wrote:i didn't state a guide would teach me like i'm four. I said it would feel like a teacher on a field trip. If your gonna rearrange my words to fit your perspective i'd appreciate you not even posting in here as I am here to learn from this forum and have clearly stated numerous times my opinion on the guide situation.You don't understand the guide situation. You're assuming that a guided trip means getting your hand held. It doesn't. Part of a guide's job is to keep you safe, sure. But one guide can take you and a friend up Mt. Hood and teach you more than you'll learn on your own in months. Why, exactly, are you so opposed to working with a trained and experienced guide? jTaylor wrote: I am willing to go with a guide if necessary, but at the time I feel from now until spring I have plenty of time to learn and practice the self arresting and walking in crampons.If those are the only skills you have, you're a danger to yourself, your partner(s), and all the other parties out there. jTaylor wrote:This is not overconfidence, This simply confidence. If I felt unsafe after going past crater rock into the steeper terrain I'd turn around and not risk myself and those around me.You have no experience, yet you're here on the internet talking about how it's not overconfidence. Your attitude here is dangerous to everyone up on the mountain. Just because you feel safe doesn't mean you are. |
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jack s. wrote:It is really easy to sit here on the internet and assume that you are one of the idiots that we have all dealt with on various climbs, but the truth is that we all had to start somewhere and we all had to push our limits a bit to get where we are now. You'll always have people telling you that you are too dumb to climb the next big thing that is just a little out of your current ability level. The best thing to do is prepare for thethe climb and ignore the nay-sayers, but understand the risks. Always be willing to turn around if things aren't going well (this happens a lot and doesn't really mean that you are a failure in any way), but it never hurts to go see for yourself what the climb is like. Do your research and when you are confident, head out to the route and give'r. A good starting point would be to read Freedom of the Hills. Be sure to get out and practice the things that you read. The book isn't perfect, but it gives you a good tool set to start with. Again, be sure to practice the techniques that apply to your climb in addition to reading about them. That way you can use them at moment's notice if need be.thanks Jack, I appreciate your post and feel that spot on with it as I read it. :) I'll check out that book tomorrow locally Stephan Doyle wrote: You don't understand the guide situation. You're assuming that a guided trip means getting your hand held. It doesn't. Part of a guide's job is to keep you safe, sure. But one guide can take you and a friend up Mt. Hood and teach you more than you'll learn on your own in months.Stephan, the only one here assuming is you. I know what guides do and understand how much you can learn from them. Stephan Doyle wrote: Why, exactly, are you so opposed to working with a trained and experienced guide?Because I'd rather enjoy this experience with a personal friend and not someone who costs hundreds of dollars when I feel adequate to complete the task at hand and turn around If I am not capable. Clearly I understand the risk and everything.... Stephan Doyle wrote: If those are the only skills you have, you're a danger to yourself, your partner(s), and all the other parties out there. You have no experience, yet you're here on the internet talking about how it's not overconfidence. Your attitude here is dangerous to everyone up on the mountain. Just because you feel safe doesn't mean you are.Learn to read and stop assuming. I never said those were the only skills I have, are you done trolling? btw this tv special about the helicopter crash gives great insight into all the climber's errors as well as the setup of the route/mountain: youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feat… |
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JTaylor, |
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I was lucky enough to have very experienced partners to teach me skills the first few years I climbed. |
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One last post, because I don't like dealing with posters who resort to ad hominem
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I've never hired a guide and I've climbed Mt. Hood. ZOMG!!!!!! |