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Mark Rowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 0

My son xxx is coming out to Boulder this Wednesday thru Sunday 8/29-9/2 from the Atlanta area to see if it's a place he might move to this November. He is 20 years old and a pediatric cancer survivor along with Eagle Scout. He is a very good guy and a very good climber. He is headed out West to find out more about himself and what he might do with his life. As his Dad I want the best for him as he is a miracle. He is also a very good photographer. I was wondering if there are some nice people out there in the Boulder area that might offer to look out for him and offer help and answers while he is in town this week. I also would love to hook him up with other cancer survivors as he has a strong support group here in the Atlanta area that he would be leaving. If you are wiling to be a resource for xxxx when he is out there let me know. He is coming out this week to scout possible employment, cheap places to live and the climbing scene. You will enjoy meeting him if you are willing to help. Thank you all in advance for your consideration. Mark

FreeRangeHuman · · safari van · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 0

I'm not in Boulder anymore, but would be happy to answer questions via email. You should certainly check out First Descents camp in Estes Park and maybe get him in touch with one of the CMS guides that work for them. Sounds like a great resource, and a chance to climb with some of the best.

www.firstdescents.org

Leeroy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 0
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Mark Rowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 0

Wow I expected a bit more from the climbing community than a slap from a punk. Happy to chat with you privately about why This important to do and yes the fact that he is a survivor has a ton to do with in for many reasons. Research side effects of full rad cranial radiation on a 4 year old and then you might have a clue. Obviously you have some issues and I hope the rest of the climbing community isn't as damaged and fast to judge and snap like you did. Now you've made me sorry I reached out hoping for a few kind souls that would help him out on this first trip.

Jeremy Monahan · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined May 2002 · Points: 410
Leeroy wrote:Time to let him go Mark. Trying to hold your sons hand at this point in his life will not be good for him in the long run. Let him walk his own road. And what, exactly, does the fact that he's a pediatric cancer survivor have to do with the fact that now he's a 20 year old adult with a father that can't stop coddling him? Didn't they teach him how to deal with overbearing parents as well as gay people on his way to becoming an Eagle Scout? Honestly your post kinda makes me feel icky.
Wow. Have you met this young man or his father? I haven't, but way to judge someone based on so little info the only way to justify it is to be a condescending ass. What makes you feel "icky" about this? And what makes you think he's "coddling" his son? Helping your son, who also happens to be a cancer survivor and an Eagle Scout, move to another state and start a new life is considered "coddling?"

I might smell a troll, but I think you just wanted to be a dick for the sake of thumping your meaty chest under some silly anonymous name. Way to call a guy out on having cancer AND being an eagle scout. I mean, the guy is from Atlanta. You gonna hate on him for that too?

/End rant, just sick of the way people judge each other in these forums without knowing all the facts. Mark, I apologize for turning your thread into a flamefest. I know there are some people in Boulder who would take Trevor under their wing. I live an hour away, otherwise I would show him around town. Best of luck to both of you.
Leeroy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 0
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Brandon Adams · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2010 · Points: 3,053

I have known the climbing community to be welcoming and friendly. Leeroy, I hope you are not a premonition of climbing's future.

I wish I was in Boulder. I would be more than happy to meet with someone else passionate about climbing.

I am hopeful that climbing and the climbing community remain beacons of light in this modern anonymous world.

As a climber, I apologize for Leeroy. Not all of us are like him.

Merlin · · Grand Junction · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 10
Leeroy wrote:Time to let him go Mark. Trying to hold your sons hand at this point in his life will not be good for him in the long run. Let him walk his own road. And what, exactly, does the fact that he's a pediatric cancer survivor have to do with the fact that now he's a 20 year old adult with a father that can't stop coddling him? Didn't they teach him how to deal with overbearing parents as well as gay people on his way to becoming an Eagle Scout? Honestly your post kinda makes me feel icky.
You are a complete douche bag, sorry if you don't like my post but I stand by it.
Joseph Crotty · · Carbondale, CO · Joined Nov 2002 · Points: 1,903

Mark,

Thanks for posting. Great to see a parent acting as a friend and mentor to their most precious resource - children.

I broke my hip earlier this week crossing a stream in Eldo, so sadly I am of little if any help to Trevor. I pray his trip is a success.

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425
Leeroy wrote:Time to let him go Mark. Trying to hold your sons hand at this point in his life will not be good for him in the long run. Let him walk his own road. And what, exactly, does the fact that he's a pediatric cancer survivor have to do with the fact that now he's a 20 year old adult with a father that can't stop coddling him? Didn't they teach him how to deal with overbearing parents as well as gay people on his way to becoming an Eagle Scout? Honestly your post kinda makes me feel icky.
Gotta agree with everyone else. My dad and I are tight now (I'm 38), but I wish my dad was more involved in my life at that age.

Sound like a good father to me. And honestly...20 is still a kid.
Derek Lawrence · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 695

Leerot

PM sent. Feel free to share if you feel so inclined!

Joe Huggins · · Grand Junction · Joined Oct 2001 · Points: 105

Hey Mark,
Sorry "The King" had to get involved in this;he doesn't in any way represent the community here. If Trevor wants to climb at the Boulder Rock Club, as my guest, let me know. If he needs a place to throw down for a couple nights, he's welcome. I'd say "let's go climbing", but my work schedule is weird...

Leeroy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 0
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Joe Huggins · · Grand Junction · Joined Oct 2001 · Points: 105
Leeroy wrote: OK YOU are a complete ass fuck and a skidmark on society!!! it is obvious from the mans' post following yours that his son suffered brain damage. As a father of a disabled child who will Bouldork by himself after asking a group of total fucking strangers on the internet to play wet nurse for him when he shows up fresh off the turnip truck on Wednesday. Either way, stellar parenting.
"Bouldork"?
Dude-you really are a complete Jackass. Stop this mindless drivel and go back to wanking. Don't bother us with your self righteous sociopathology anymore. Grow up, shut up and get a clue.
Kip Kasper · · Bozeman, MT · Joined Feb 2010 · Points: 200
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Adam Brink · · trying to get to Sardinia · Joined Mar 2001 · Points: 560

Mark- I'm happy to help your son out when he visits Boulder. My email is adam@teamabcboulder.com. He's welcome to climb at our gym, go out with us climbing on Saturday or just hit me up for anything else. We have a great network of families that might make his stay better. Please let me know how I can help.

Adam

Joe Huggins · · Grand Junction · Joined Oct 2001 · Points: 105
Keenan Waeschle wrote: yeah, gonna have to say leeroy has a point here, MP fucking sucks, why would you ask this "community" of anonymous fucktards and dickheads to coddle you're son? Tell him to check out bozeman, I've never been to boulder, but everyone I know from there smokes way too much pot and has a vocabulary that is limited to "yeah bro!" and "pass the j, you faggot". Sounds like a nice kid, hopefully with a heart of gold. Many people will pick up on that and he should have no problem finding compassionate souls along his way. Obviously you can support him and love him, but I would draw the line at gaining pity points on a climbing forum.
Wow! Yet another Jackass...Are you all like that in Bozeman? Ignorant rednecks lacking compassion or IQ? I had kind of thought otherwise; but seeing your post makes me reconsider.I have some advice for you Keenan:same as I gave The King-grow up, shut up, get a clue. And please, don't come here-as it turns out;douches aren't really very healthy.
Noah Taylor · · Atlanta, Georgia · Joined May 2011 · Points: 0

I'm amazed at the idiocy displayed on this thread. You are a great father Mark.

Leeroy, stop while you're behind. You won't get ahead in this situation.

Edit: Looking back on the thread, I want to make clear that I also recognize the good hearts that are reaching out to help. Without the ickyness you could never see the good I suppose =)

Mark Wyss · · Denver, CO · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 255

Leeroy, I am wondering what you get out of posting something like that. All of the previous posters are right, you are a judgmental dick. I have no idea what you were thinking when you decided to post that. How can you read over what you posted and still stand by it? Pride? Just being a flat out stubborn ass? When I was 20 no way I could have lived in a city by myself with no support from my parents. Now Leroy, if you were kicked out of your house when you were 15 (I can't think of any reason why your parents would want to do that...you sound like a prize son) and forced to live on your own, then subsequently had no choice but to make do. Most likely you were used to it by the time you were 20. But everyone's situation is different. 20 years old is only a couple years removed from HS. Add to his age the cancer and things were difficult for his son. It would be great for you to fill us in on what you were up to when you were 20 (I will be amused to hear the lies that follow).

Mark, your son should do fine in Boulder. No, I don't know him but I spent 5 years there a while back. If you've never been there, Boulder is super-diverse (a good thing imo). I am sure that he will be able to find some support group. It is a very friendly city. Sorry that one of the first posts you read was from a complete moron. Don't let that have a negative affect on your view of Boulder. There are a ton of members on MP that post here regularly that reside in the Denver/Boulder area. You will find more support than not. Good luck to you and your son!

Mark Rowell · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2012 · Points: 0

Leeroy, all i can say is I am sad for you. It was suggested by a climbing gym there in Boulder that I post on here to try and make some connections there in Boulder to see if there were a few folks that might be available to give him some flavor for the area while he was there. Obviously this train fell off the tracks when you unfortunately found my post. I am glad for the majority of the folks on here and I will thank my lucky stars tonight that I was not your son. Wow, I sure hope you have been fixed so your don't spawn as your off spring will be screwed with you as their Dad. Thanks to a few on here as there is hope for humankind I believe. You are VERY thick if you think this is the only way i was helping him research the area and find some connections. Yes a Dad should ALWAYS be looking out for his kids well being at any age. This will be my last response to negative comments as I don't want to get anywhere as low as a few on here. leeroy, do you climb anyway or are you just rattling around causing trouble?

Andy Novak · · Bailey, CO · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 370
Keenan Waeschle wrote: MP fucking sucks.
...Says the nineteen year-old with 392 posts.

Grow up kid.
Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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