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percious
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May 11, 2012
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Bear Creek, CO
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 1,190
Anyone else notice that there are a few death blocks at the top of this rap? What does it take to get the parks department to send these things south? Every time I do this rap, I just prey they don't fall. If you are on it, please don't step on these things. Also, it seems like it'd be a good idea to put some bolts in at the second rap and save the tree. Just sayin. I'm glad to have survived it once again. Oh, and I rapped it with a 70 meter yesterday, and it seems like It comes up a tad short getting to the red ledge. Luckily there's a tree there, but is this thing rap-able with a 60m? cheers. -chris
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timt
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May 11, 2012
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Wheat Ridge, CO
· Joined Jan 2006
· Points: 50
i stopped doing that nasty rappel route years ago. as a MUCH BETTER alternative, try the chockstone/vertigo raps. it involves a tiny bit of scrambling, but lets you hit the ground near your pack with 3 single rope raps. i think the beta for this descent is listed under yellow spur. nice clean free hanging raps with no death blocks & no stuck ropes. also, i have never encountered anyone climbing the routes over which i was rapping. i find this much faster than the dirty deed and way less drama.
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fossana
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May 11, 2012
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leeds, ut
· Joined Apr 2006
· Points: 13,318
You can use a 60m for the Dirty Deeds rap.
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Tim Stich
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May 11, 2012
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Colorado Springs, Colorado
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 1,520
It's been a while since I have done that rap. I think I've done it a grand total of three times. They do clean loose rock in the park. I recall some notice from Mike that a trundling day was happening a while back.
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Phil Lauffen
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May 11, 2012
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Innsbruck, AT
· Joined Jun 2008
· Points: 3,098
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Tony B
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May 11, 2012
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Around Boulder, CO
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 24,665
I used the DD raps just recently and thought it seemed OK to me, but then again, if someone was above my party, I'd be worried. Yeah, you can do the CC to Vertigo system too, but if you have someone who is tentative scrambling, I'm not sure it is any "easier." Mike McHugh does have a trundle day coming up. I'll forward this link to him and see what he thinks.
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percious
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May 11, 2012
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Bear Creek, CO
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 1,190
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David Appelhans
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May 11, 2012
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Broomfield, CO
· Joined Nov 2007
· Points: 410
I've done the raps around 6 times in the last 2 years. I did the raps a few weeks ago and didn't notice anything I would call a death block. In my opinion trundling should be done only where absolutely necessary. A 60m requires about 10 ft of 5.4 downclimbing on one of the raps.
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percious
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Aug 22, 2012
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Bear Creek, CO
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 1,190
Did the blocks ever get trundled off of this piece?
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Kevin Murphy
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Aug 22, 2012
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Longmont, CO
· Joined Feb 2005
· Points: 397
Did the raps last Saturday. Few small rocks followed my rope. No death rocks. There was a line for the vertigo raps. A party next to me was quite upset that we were using the raps, their proximity to rewritten, Zot are a bit of a concern. Should these raps be eliminated?
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Tony B
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Aug 22, 2012
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Around Boulder, CO
· Joined Jan 2001
· Points: 24,665
The raps are fine. The raps don't cause me distress. But you can't fix or filter stupid. The people above you might be. Never know. Same goes for anywhere. If you eliminate the raps the first person looking to use them will refurbish them anyway. Self included.
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Stefan Griebel
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Aug 22, 2012
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Oct 2002
· Points: 330
percious wrote:Did the blocks ever get trundled off of this piece? Yes, several blocks were trundled off this rap route, as well as a couple neighboring climbs during the wee hours of the morning one day back in May.
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Kevin Murphy
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Aug 22, 2012
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Longmont, CO
· Joined Feb 2005
· Points: 397
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Scott McMahon
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Aug 22, 2012
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Feb 2006
· Points: 1,425
Red ledge has a TV size block sitting at the end right near the start of Swanson's. Just stitting there. Gonna be ugly when it goes. Oh and the rope pulling friction to get off the summit is HORRIBLE!!
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Kevin Murphy
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Aug 22, 2012
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Longmont, CO
· Joined Feb 2005
· Points: 397
what friction? What climb did you do?
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Scott McMahon
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Aug 22, 2012
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Boulder, CO
· Joined Feb 2006
· Points: 1,425
kevin murphy wrote:what friction? What climb did you do? Topping out on Swanson's, so I guess technically that summit rap isn't exactly DD's.
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Kevin Murphy
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Aug 22, 2012
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Longmont, CO
· Joined Feb 2005
· Points: 397
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percious
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Aug 22, 2012
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Bear Creek, CO
· Joined Nov 2006
· Points: 1,190
Stefan Griebel wrote: Yes, several blocks were trundled off this rap route, as well as a couple neighboring climbs during the wee hours of the morning one day back in May. Wahooo! Thanks to all parties involved. I love the smell of sulphur in the morning... cheers. -chris
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