Daisy chain from accessory cord

Has anyone else made a daisy chain out of cord? If you have, have you used it often and how well did it perform?

I am learning knots... lots of knots and decided to tie a whole bunch of alpine butterfly knots in a piece of 6mm cord. Looks like a decent chain. I can use either figure eights at the ends or bowlines.

Individual knot.


Part of the chain


Joshua

Well, for starters what's the strength of 6mm cord minus the knot efficiency of an alpine butterfly? You comfortable with that? If so, don't check this thread again, as I predict it'll be a whole lot of "Yer Gonna DIE!!!!".

Yer might die?

:P

Aric Datesman wrote:Well, for starters what's the strength of 6mm cord minus the knot efficiency of an alpine butterfly? You comfortable with that? If so, don't check this thread again, as I predict it'll be a whole lot of "Yer Gonna DIE!!!!".

Depending on the application, it might be strong enough. Through the loop, butterfly is 67% efficient; 53% if loading both ends of the rope. (cite Wikipedia here )

Sterling's 6mm cord is rated to 19kN, so 10kN - 13kN with new cord. (cite Sterling )

I don't intend on building anchors with it. More of a PAC while working on an anchor or likewise. I didn't figure this would be anywhere near a good idea as say... a top rope anchor.

No worries though, I already realize that "I GONNA DIE!"

Thanks

The idea is kinda cool. I personally would never make one of those and try to rack it on a harness, it looks to bulky. I just have a couple of BD daisies that i use.

Stephan Doyle wrote: Sterling's 6mm cord is rated to 19kN, so 10kN - 13kN with new cord.

FYI, the one you linked isn't their regular 6mm accessory cord, but rather their tech cord. The 6mm accessory has a breaking strength of 8.8kN. sterlingrope.com/product/45…

Joshua Griffin wrote:I don't intend on building anchors with it. More of a PAC while working on an anchor or likewise.

Look at a purcell prusic for that. More versatile. Can be used for other things. Can be easily tied as needed right on the spot.

I had seen someone use a prussic for a personal anchor. Not a bad idea.

Not only am I gonna die, but if I am asking this question I am sure I shouldn't be on MP or climbing at all. Anyway...

The prussic setup uses a figure eight on one side and then a prussic on the other side attached to the same rope toward the figure eight, right? I am sure I could find a photo if I really looked.

Here ya go

Joshua Griffin wrote:Not only am I gonna die, but if I am asking this question I am sure I shouldn't be on MP or climbing at all. Anyway... The prussic setup uses a figure eight on one side and then a prussic on the other side attached to the same rope toward the figure eight, right? I am sure I could find a photo if I really looked.

Easiest is to clove hitch yourself to the anchor with the climbing rope. You're tied to it anyway. But, if you want to use a leash, I gave you the name: Purcell Prusik
And google is your friend ;)

Purcell howto
Some people grith hitch it to their harness. Others use a locking carabiner.

If you're goal was to make a leash to secure yourself to an anchor between multiple rappels, here's one way. Rappel leash

IMO, a daisy for a leash or your knotted method is least desirable.

Purcell prussic was what I was trying to explain, thanks. I may try it just to see if I like it. I actually have a daisy chain that I can use when transitioning from leading to rappelling, I just like to seek out multiple methods to everything. "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

It's funny that when you say your a making a daisy chain people automatically assume you are using it as a PAS.

Is it just me or do a lot of people dislike PAS's?

Joshua Griffin wrote:Is it just me or do a lot of people dislike PAS's?

People like to spout about their dislike of them on the interwebs.

ZachR wrote:It's funny that when you say your a making a daisy chain people automatically assume you are using it as a PAS.

That might be because the OP wrote: "I don't intend on building anchors with it. More of a PAC while working on an anchor or likewise."