TC Pros from Rock and Resole. Seems rounded?
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that's a hack job for sure, those edges should be sharp and crisp. Looks like they were training someone using your shoes, major bummer dude. Call 'em up, get your money back |
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Yea, not sure what they were going for but that doesn't look right to me. R&R is in Boulder right? I got four pair of shoes resoled by them last year and they did an excellent job w/ a quick turn around. I'd say give 'em a call and see what they have to say. Don't be hostile, just give your honest opinion. |
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I just had 3 pairs of shoes resoled by R&R. The two pairs of Muiras were perfect but I wasn't very impressed with the TC Pro resole. Not nearly as bad as yours, but there was noticeable rounding on the instep side of the shoes. Post up a response if you contact them. |
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Looks like you have some great slab shoes with ankle protection... |
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My tc pros look perfect and my second resole on my muiras also look killer |
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I emailed them and there is actually more to the story as far as having another pair coming back (Katana's) that are splitting at the seam on top on the nose. Those are were well done just the seam splitting. and the third pair are perfect. No response yet, I'll keep this updated as it goes. I do believe that R&R is a good company. |
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I had a similar problem with a hole forming in the rand under a week of use after a R&R resole. I called them and they offered nothing. Claim of user error (even if i do drag my toes the shoe should last more than 5 gym sessions). They only guarantee the glue between the sole and the rand. |
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Well after sending the email to the wrong address I called back again. They told me to send them back for rework. I didn't send the katana's cause I need to use them so I'll deal for now. |
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The real question is why would you use a $180 pair of TC Pros in the gym? That does look a bit hack to me. My new TC pros have pretty sharp edges. Resoling is an art, sometimes it goes well and sometimes not. I'd rather have it done well from the start, but how a company handles the bad jobs also says a lot about them. Hope you get it fixed. |
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I've had very good luck with Rock & Resole: only one unsatisfactory job in 20+ soles. Most of those resoles have lasted longer and performed better than the original factory sole. I attribute my positive experience in part to the fact that I never get toe caps. Climbing shoe "break-in" means conforming the rand to the shape of your toes, primarily the big toe. A toe cap means starting the break-in process anew, with the attendant discomfort and decrease in performance. |
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I have had hundreds of shoes resoled over at r & r over the years. I feel that they always do a great job, but have noticed in the past year that they seem super busy!! I have personally spoken to the owner about resoling tc pros, which he explains are a pain in the ass. There is stiching under the toe cap that seems to make them more difficult. As for the rounding on the soles. I dont think there is a problem there. Tc's have super thick rubber on them, and I think the rounding just makes them look cleaner once the job is done, and dont see how that could effect you edging on real rock. I would continue to use rock and resole if I were you. They have never let me down. Plus I have never had to wait longer than a couple of days to get my shoes back if you ask. |
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rule #1 for resoling - ALWAYS REFUSE TOE CAPS |
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Beagle wrote:rule #1 for resoling - ALWAYS REFUSE TOE CAPS If you need toe caps you need new shoes, and you need to work on your footwork.+1 Had RR do my Katanas, which didn't need toe caps and they were perfect. Did my miuras with toe caps and they came out a 1/2 sz bigger and never climbed well again. |
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a resole often wont perform as well as a brand new pair in terms of edging ... some resolers dont use the vibram xs edge that sportivas use, but some other rubber version |
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I have 3 pairs of shoes. |
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I always felt you get better service if you personally deliver the shoes. If you mail 'em in and they mail 'em back, you may not like what you get back. |
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whittlesticks wrote:... As for the rounding on the soles. I dont think there is a problem there. Tc's have super thick rubber on them, and I think the rounding just makes them look cleaner once the job is done, and dont see how that could effect you edging on real rock.Uhhhh what's that? Cleaner??? One can edge on a credit card glued to a wall with new edges, try that with rounded ones. |
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I actually disagree to some extent on wanting a really sharp edge on your shoe. With a thick sole and sharp edge there's no support for the rubber and it tends to deflect and bend and NOT stick. It just rolls off the edge. This is especially true with the softer C4. The XS Edge performs as claimed in my mind and is better at micro edging than the c4. For more pure friction, C4 rules the day. |
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i disagree, i climb my best (on thin faces) when they are spankin new and sharp out the box. |
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Adam Winters wrote:i disagree, i climb my best (on thin faces) when they are spankin new and sharp out the box. edit: I know the 'rollover' you speak of and have experienced it with a few pairs of shoes, but I think a properly constructed shoe should not do this.It's all going to be very dependent on the route, route, rubber, temps etc etc. There are certainly times that I've wanted a nice sharp edge too. Just saying it's not ALL the time. |